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"However, that aside, we still probably have plenty of people to do what needs to be done."

We have 5.7% unemployment, roughly 1.6 million people have been unemployed for more than six months, and the other @5.5 million are basically moving from one job to the other.

I don't know if you've ever been unemployed for any period of time, but if you have been...did you consider finding a job picking tomatoes?

Cleaning hotel rooms?

There are by all accounts somewhere between 8 and 10 million illegal aliens in the country, a significant percentage of them working at one job or another.

If we could magically get all of them out of the country right now, do you believe that the lesser number of unemployed computer technicians, retail clerks, accountants, data entry clerks etc. would rush to cover a job below their normal employment level?

They may actually do it to cover that period of time from the time where they lost their job, to the time they find an equal replacement, but the industries concerned can't rely on casual, temporary labor to exist.

Now, that to me is reality, and you have to take reality into account when looking a solution for the problem of the millions of illegal aliens living in a subculture in our nation.

Right now we are fighting a global war that I believe in the scope of things takes precedence over the issue of illegal aliens in the country. I believe that we need to beef up the Border Patrol with manpower, equipment and technology, but using the Army to enforce immigration policy while a war rages is absurd!

Proof of the absurdity is the fact that a leftist member of the media needed to call the war unnecessary in order to justify his immigration rant.

"I don't know if you've ever been unemployed for any period of time, but if you have been...did you consider finding a job picking tomatoes?

Cleaning hotel rooms?"

Actually, yes. I was unemployed for a stretch several years ago and to make ends meet I worked as a laborer cutting down trees and running a tree chipper. I had just gotten my MBA.

You do what you have to do unril such time as you improve your ocupational "state" to the point where you occupationally belong.

Your positions appear reasonable to me Luis.

I do believe the lower end jobs would be filled by people who need the work. We are not too proud. I have a brother who was unemployed for a while and he delivered newspapers. Now he makes some fairly big bucks at what he used to do.

In fact, my brothers and I have done jobs like janitor, construction, garbage collection, and waiter in the past. Now we are in jobs completely unrelated to any of those (with much higher incomes too), but I have nothing against getting dirty to earn money, neither do most Americans.

It is my contention that illegal immigration is a net loser for America. The costs far outweigh the benefits. It will be far less expensive in the long run to put a halt to illegal immigration and to deport those here, than it is to allow illegal immigration and the up to 20 million illegals to remain.

And the expense I refer to is not just monetary, but cultural and political.