Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson
The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.
The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.
Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.
Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.
IMO That kind of behavior and the apparent tolerance of it on FR while, at the same time, appearing to silence other voices is the spark to this whole Immigration imbroglio
Oh sheesh, the "cyber-martyr" rhetoric in full bloom, how charles rangel.
You are responding to a response to my post. In that post I asked, "are Americans going to be asked if they want those jobs the undocumented workers have held for years? I thought Americans had to be asked first then the search for 'willing workers' began."
Here I was referring to the "guest worker" plan that promises that Americans will be asked first before the ILLEGAL immigrant-cum-guest worker can be legally hired under the plan.
The "guest worker" plan may be fine (though unnecessary in my opinion) for temporary work but what about undocumented workers who have careers? Would you have the "guest worker" plan renege on the promise to ask Americans first?
Whatever, say that to the face of Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida or Rep. Bonilla of Texas.
You don't have the cajones, IMO.
Free Republic Opinion Poll: After hearing President Bush's speech, do you approve of his immigration reform plan?
| Composite Opinion | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| No | 68.0% |   |
2,324 |
| Yes | 21.0% | |
718 |
| Undecided | 11.0% | |
376 |
| 100.0% | 3,418 | ||
| Member Opinion | |||
| No | 67.9% | |
2,303 |
| Yes | 21.1% | |
715 |
| Undecided | 11.0% | |
374 |
| 100.0% | 3,392 | ||
| Non-Member Opinion | |||
| No | 80.8% | |
21 |
| Yes | 11.5% | |
3 |
| Undecided | 7.7% | |
2 |
| 100.0% | 26 | ||
What is with you that you feel the need to attack all the time? Sheesh - How Daschle of you.
I'm guessing this is a computerized translation, but I'm not expert enough to say for sure. Is it?
Uh you all are the ones acting like daschle like with your 24/7 pity party, IMO.
That kind of behavior and the apparent tolerance of it on FR while, at the same time, appearing to silence other voices is the spark to this whole Immigration imbroglio."
Spot on.
When the message and messenger of the truth is demonized, it's clear the last line of "defense" from the opposition is overrun.
Who usually engages in this style of attacking the truth? Barabra Boxer, Al Sharpton -- in short, the Left.
Hysteria, fear, and lying have trumped reasonable debate on the issue.
Not to mention blanket statements such as the one you made above. Unless you're seriously suggesting that those advance reasonable debate.
Has the WH seen this? ;-)
lol...you saying that is akin to Himmler calling Heydrich an anti-Semite.
too rich....calling folks racists is the only arrow in yer quiver,
Speaking of Rep. Bonilla.......do you have any comment about what he speaks of in the link in post 2757 ??
"where people actually die attending soccer matches"
At least people from south of the border only murder their own players for losing a match. Yea, that's the ticket--that's why we want all of these non-assimilated people here.
one of FR's dirty little secrets is that a lot of you race baiters and open borders types have your own little axe to grind don't you Dane?
you're still angry over mom and dad's tribulations and you want us to pay for it.
you ought to be grateful you're here cause they made the right move and stop your resentment and calls for destroying the culture that founded us.
Can you name one nation on earth that would allow the massive immigration you and your posse howl for on this forum? Name one.
None of the scores of countries I've lived or worked or visited in would wish this...none. Wars are usually fought over what you are trumpeting.
Kool Aid drinking ingrate. Lets' just open the doors to everybody from everywhere...we will go from 300 million to a couple of billion in a decade or so and places like Haiti or Sierra Leone will be vacant but you will be happy because you have seen the destruction of the existing culture here which you despise. Spit it out Dane...vent for all of us. Let us feel your pain about feeling like you are a "minority" or whatever you think you are. We owe you right?
"Whatever, say that to the face of Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida or Rep. Bonilla of Texas."
You mean the same Senator Martinez who addressed the U.S. Senate en Espanol?
And btw, how's your reading comprehension? That's "M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y."
Having you been in South Florida or Southern California recently?
The U.S. government AND academia have indeed been encouraging a Balkinized culture for years now -- and that's what we're getting.
I suspect he may be trying to hide it from Vicente... :-)
Ah, that I didn't know. I may have to revise my opinion of Mr. Martinez.
Why are you attacking one of your allies on this matter, Dane? If Charlie was here on this forum, he'd be on your side of this debate.
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