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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.

The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.

Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.

Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.


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To: patriciaruth

Not give up.

The political reality out there in MSM and academic and Hollywood brainwashland is that the Dems are using the Hispanics for a voting block power base.

As with all their voting block power bases they have to be sure the problems they care about are never solved or they would no long be able to be manipulated by the Dems to vote for them.

This goes for all of their voting blocks, BTW.

There is a way to convert a voting block without giving up your principles.

Did the Republican party, the party of Lincoln, the party that ended slavery, give up its principles when the Southerners got angry with the Dems when they started to champion black civil rights and the solid Democrat South started moving to the Republican party?

The Dems call us racist, but no Southerner votes for us for that reason now. They vote with us because they are patriots and believe in God.

We fought illegal immigration head on here in California and we lost because the Dems controlled the MSM, academia and Hollywood. So, we had to get smarter about the way we do a slow sneak to the same objective...keeping America true to its principles and keeping America safe from destruction.

You may not agree with the strategies we have adopted (my personal favorites are Pied Piper and End Run to the 11 o'clock news), but we are doing this because we think this guerrilla war we are waging in our own country against the MSM and the Dems to win Hispanics to see that our economic freedom (which they like about this country) and our respect for family and God (which is what they value in their own culture) is in their best interests, and together we will then control the border for the best interests of all in America.

It's NOT "if you can't lick them, join them."
It's "if you can't lick them, get them to join you."


1,361 posted on 02/11/2005 8:04:03 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Luis Gonzalez



Wait, I don't get it.

Are we not allowed to write anything against illegal immigration?

WE can't say we disagree with it?


1,362 posted on 02/11/2005 8:04:22 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: drt1

Very well said. I should have known such a well reasoned post came from a Michigan and Navy man.


1,363 posted on 02/11/2005 8:06:51 PM PST by HRoarke ("There cannot be an absence of moral content in American foreign policy,..We are not Europe")
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"Also, there are some posters who are using the illegal immigration issue to insult and or viciously attack other posters on this forum. These people should not be surprised or act innocent when they lose their posting privileges. Continued posting of racism, personal attacks, insults, profanity, etc, will lead to a sudden loss of posting privileges (with or without warning or explanation). Don't bother writing."-- Jim Robinson

Is that clear enough?

1,364 posted on 02/11/2005 8:08:57 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: F16Fighter; Luis Gonzalez
I merely pointed out the fact that you repeatedly make unfounded accusations.............and you proved my point by doing it again.

You would have some credibility if you stuck with the facts, F16, but you just make things up to be a tough guy.

I want to see you back up your accusation of Luis with concrete facts. Post a link where he said he supported illegal immigration. Prove it.

Put your money where you accusing mouth is.

1,365 posted on 02/11/2005 8:09:42 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: Junior_G
It doesn't help to have people on this very thread throwing out unwarranted accusations of racism at Freepers

We definitely agree on that. It is a delicate subject. But it is unfortunately true.

There are some advocates of stronger illegal control, as we all are, that have varying degrees of racist overtones. I know this for a fact. It is not rocket science, but it takes a great deal of patience to discern who is who.

As you probably know, it is a huge challenge to do house keeping here, and it is not always done without terror.

But it remains a challenge just the same. We cannot allow anyone to sully what we believe to be a good reputation. It damages everything if we fail in this challenge.

We are all tasked with that difficult responsibility. The mods have been great when we don't.

1,366 posted on 02/11/2005 8:10:13 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Chani

ping


1,367 posted on 02/11/2005 8:10:35 PM PST by Chani (what am I gonna do on weekends now, without the nfl??? ;))
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To: LauraleeBraswell
WE can't say we disagree with it?

You can, but you'll be labeled a racist xenophobe.

1,368 posted on 02/11/2005 8:10:42 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I see you are starting to post the excuses of why you can't back up your personal attacks."

Stop...You're crackin' me up....

"Now, get on with it...if I have four years worth of posts supporting illegal immigration scattered throughout this forum in the four and a half years that I've been a member, you should be able to find ONE...right?"

Still laughing...

1,369 posted on 02/11/2005 8:10:47 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Luis Gonzalez

""Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. ""

It's just hard to believe. We can't disagree with Illegal immigration. As in Immigration that's against the law?


1,370 posted on 02/11/2005 8:11:43 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: MeekOneGOP
My status has been elevated from pinger of the Viking Kitties to Indoctrinated Flying monkey! hahaha!

Congratulations on your new position!

1,371 posted on 02/11/2005 8:12:07 PM PST by dfwright (Optimist: Glass Half full - Pessimist: Glass Half Empty - Engineer: Glass too large.)
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To: asgardshill
Here's a pork pie for you as well. There's plenty to go around.


1,372 posted on 02/11/2005 8:12:08 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Junior_G
"In other words: Give up."

Give up what? America has never been better in every respect (well maybe not the abortion respect, but you can't blame Hispanics)).

Our economy is booming. Our standard of living has never been better.

No one is threatening your culture (except the ones taking religion out of the public, but you can't blame Hispanics), crime is decreasing, our foreign policy and military are astoundingly successful, we have the world's best health care, I'm getting lots of sex, taxes have been cut,...

If you want to give up, go ahead. Send us a postcard from Paris.

1,373 posted on 02/11/2005 8:12:38 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: ohioWfan
Are you riding shotgun on the 'Road-Kill Express' or are you behind the wheel this time?

(honk-honk)

1,374 posted on 02/11/2005 8:12:48 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Marine Inspector


Who will label us that?

I just don't understand, what's the problem? I'm all for Legal immigration.


1,375 posted on 02/11/2005 8:14:42 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
WE can't say we disagree with it?

LOL! Of course!

I thought the statements were quite clear.

Posting rules an etiquette apply. That is the message.

1,376 posted on 02/11/2005 8:15:07 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Howlin
Ref. post #1233. Feb. 3rd was Thurssday. I had checked back with my pings to verify (after post #1174) and I was a day off. Big deal.

Bottom line. I never said you got JoeHadenuf banned. Joe was a loose cannon and his banning was no surprise. That particular thread wasn't that vicious to be pulled. You were there. its to bad JackelopeBreeder has been banned, too. He was also involved.

I stand by everything I said about that nights thread. I've never been banned, never had a time out, and had less than 5 post pulled since I joined the FR over two years ago. Can you say the same?

1,377 posted on 02/11/2005 8:15:40 PM PST by Missouri
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To: postaldave; Luis Gonzalez; F16Fighter
F16 feels free to make accusations.

I just want him to back them up with facts.

His response to me proved he can't. He's good at name-calling and fabricating charges, but when called on it, he runs and hides.

1,378 posted on 02/11/2005 8:15:52 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: Gilbo_3

I haven't read enough about it to determine what it was or wasn't.........

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=75;results=2


1,379 posted on 02/11/2005 8:16:19 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Why you can't back up your personal attacks."

Ok, I'll play Luis.

Kindly "back up" evidence of your charge of "personal attacks."

1,380 posted on 02/11/2005 8:17:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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