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Rice urges Israel to avoid unilateral steps on Jerusalem
Ha'aretz ^ | 6 February 2005 | Aluf Benn, Haaretz Staff, and Agencies

Posted on 02/06/2005 12:53:43 PM PST by anotherview

Last Update: 06/02/2005 20:55
Rice urges Israel to avoid unilateral steps on J'lem
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent Haaretz Staff and Agencies

Prime Miniser Ariel Sharon and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ahead of their talks in Jerusalem on Sunday.
(AP)

Condoleezza Rice laying a wreath at the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem on Sunday.
(Reuters)

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Sunday met with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and President Moshe Katsav, and urged them to maintain the status quo over Jerusalem, and avoid taking any unilateral steps on the disputed capital which could harm Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. Israeli sources said Rice was referring to the government's decision from last summer to apply the absentee property law to tens of thousands of dunams (acres) of Palestinian property in East Jerusalem. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz last week instructed Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to order an immediate halt to the application of the law. The sources said Rice may also have been referring to the decision to build the separation fence in Jerusalem, and to expand Jewish neighborhoods in the city.

Rice said Sunday that the disengagement plan is an historic opportunity, and that the future security of Palestinians and Israelis will be ensured only by two states exisiting side by side.

In an interview with TV Channel 2 Rice emphasized the importance of direct contact between Israeli and Palestinian negotiators, and minimum involvement of mediators such as the U.S.

When asked about the right of return for Palestinian refugees, the secretary of state said that while new demographic realities since 1967 must be taken into account, the parties must reach an agreement accommodating to the needs of them both.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, who was the first Israeli official to meet with Rice on Sunday, told the secretary of state, "Israel will not relinquish its sovereignty over Jerusalem. The issue of Jerusalem will be left to the final status agreement, but we have to intention to harm the Palestinians."

Rice also said that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan must be implemented without delay, and carried out according to its timetable. She told Shalom that Abu Mazen [Abbas] was elected through democratic elections and he needs as much help as possible to give a firm basis to his leadership. Shalom responded that "the pain of the settlers [to be evacuated under the plan] must be understood and empathy must be shown. These people do not know where they will live or where they will work.

Rice arrived in Israel in an optimistic mood Sunday afternoon, as she prepared for talks with Israeli and Palestinian officials two days before the first official Middle East summit since the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat last November.

Her first stop was a visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem, where she laid a wreath inside the Hall of Remembrance.

She then met with Shalom, followed by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. She is also due to meet President Moshe Katsav later Sunday.

Ahead of their meeting, Sharon said he was sure his talks with Rice would "contribute to the friendly relations between the two countries." Sharon said he also expected her visit to contribute to the peace process, "which we want to very much want to push forward in the region."

In response, Rice said U.S.-Israel relations were solid "because we share not just interests but values." She said her goal was to "try to advance the cause of peace and to overcome the scourge of terrorism."

Before meeting Shalom, Rice said, "we will ask of our partners and our friends in Israel that Israel continues to make the hard decisions that must be taken in order to promote peace and... the emergence of a democratic Palestinian state.

"This is a time of optimism because fundamental changes are underway in the Middle East as a whole," she added.

After their meeting, Shalom told Channel 2 television that he gave Rice Israel's demands of the Palestinians.

"If the Palestinians do not to everything to halt the smuggling of weapons through tunnels, close the tunnels, close the weapons workshops, gather up illegal weapons - we would simply be giving the violent groups time to regroup and then carry out terror attacks that could collapse the whole process," he said.

On Monday, Rice will travel to the West Bank city of Ramallah for talks with Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia.

Tuesday's summit, hosted and initiated by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in the resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh, will be attended by Sharon, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan's King Abdullah.

Although the U.S. has said that the secretary of state will not attend the talks, her agenda is likely to include in part a review of the plans for the summit.

Rice has signaled she prefers to see Sharon and Abbas make progress as free of foreign mediation as possible.

"I hope we would all get into a mind-set that says if the parties are able to continue to move on their own, that's the very best outcome," Rice told reporters en route to Ankara, the stop before Israel.

Preparations for the Egypt summit are being finalized, but not before her arrival.

Israeli officials assessed that the secretary of state would commend both sides on their recent efforts.

Paul Patin, a spokesman of the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv, said Rice would bring up a wide range of issues, including Israel's commitment under the internationally backed road map peace plan to dismantle dozens of unauthorized West Bank settlement outposts and Israeli gestures to the Palestinians, such as the removal of Israeli checkpoints that disrupt Palestinian travel - gestures that would bolster confidence in the new Palestinian leadership.

"Outposts are something that they promised to remove years ago and we expect them to abide by their commitments," Patin said.

She is also expected to call on the Palestinians to do more to restore security and bring an end to violence.

For their part, the Americans are trying to play down Rice's absence from the Egyptian summit.

"It is not necessary to participate at the highest level in every gathering in order to be a major player and part of the solution," a State Department spokesman explained Saturday.

In Israel, police raised their level of operations in various regions around the country Sunday, in anticipation of Rice's arrival and the run-up to Tuesday's summit.

Police decided to bolster forces around the country and checkpoints were set up between the seam line and various Israeli cities. Police will conduct both regular and undercover patrols.

Sharon may invite Mubarak Israeli officials, meanwhile, said Sunday that Sharon may invite his Egyptian counterpart to visit Israel during Tuesday's summit, as relations between the former enemies continue to flourish.

The invitations "is quite likely," said an unnamed official. "We would very much like him to come."

In recent months relations have improved as Egypt took a larger role in mediating between Israel and the Palestinians. The last visit by an Egyptian leader to Israel was by Mubarak in 1995, when he came to the funeral of assassinated prime minister Yitzhak Rabin.


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To: Nachum
Are you a conservative?

I am more fiscally conservative than socially conservative - but I have voted republican for years because they more closely represent my views than democrats do. I hated the farm bill, for instance. And I did not support McCain Feingold. I prefer people who adhere to their principles even when I may not agree with all of the principles. So I support republicans for the most part.

Are you a conservative?

321 posted on 02/07/2005 12:49:51 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong; SJackson

ROFL,

God of Israel declared Jerusalem as his spiritual capital and chosed to place the Temple- his spiritual home- on the East of Jerusalem, on the Temple mount.

Would anyone like to oppose the decision?


322 posted on 02/07/2005 12:50:18 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: SJackson
You've been telling a sorts of posters to leave

I've been telling people that I think they may be happier on a more extremist site. My opinion. And that applies to you as well :-)

323 posted on 02/07/2005 12:52:54 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Would anyone like to oppose the decision?

LOL!

It wouldnt matter if they did. What GOD has given no man can take away.

324 posted on 02/07/2005 12:53:22 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Would anyone like to oppose the decision?

Sure :-)

I am in no mood to be manipulated. I suggest that Sharon does what Condi tells him to :-)

325 posted on 02/07/2005 12:54:53 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

For the most part I am a conservative. Bush's position on immigration has me scratching my head.


326 posted on 02/07/2005 12:55:22 PM PST by Nachum
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To: SJackson
What makes them foreigners, the fact that they disagree with you or is support of Israel enough.

Either of the above?

327 posted on 02/07/2005 12:56:50 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
God of Israel declared Jerusalem as his spiritual capital and chosed to place the Temple- his spiritual home- on the East of Jerusalem, on the Temple mount.

Seems to me that the Palestinians claim "God" is on their side too. I find resorting to such tactics to be reprehensible whether from Israel or from Palestinians.

328 posted on 02/07/2005 12:57:26 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I've been telling people that I think they may be happier on a more extremist site. My opinion. And that applies to you as well :-)

Seems to me you've accused me of being prone to violence in the past, the hunting connection, so extremist isn't much.

I've been telling people you're a troll with no objective other spewing invectives to disrupt the thread. As I linked earlier it's your style Sunsong/Sungirl, mostly on PETA or hunting threads. And yes, your anti-hunting posts would fit far better on DU.

329 posted on 02/07/2005 12:57:32 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: No Blue States; Sunsong

Thats what I am trying to explain to Sunsong.

You shouldn't piss GOD.

Let's be spiritual for a moment.
Our enemies say that Israel is strong today thanks to America.
But what if also the opposite is true? What if America is strong today because it supports Israel?

Rmemember what the Bible says:
"Those who bless you, I will bless. Those who curse you, I will curse".

Now, if we look at history, we can see that this became true for all the nations who opposed or supported Israel.

So, for a conclusion, don't try to change the capital of God.
Thank you and good night.


330 posted on 02/07/2005 1:02:23 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: SJackson
I've been telling people you're a troll with no objective other spewing invectives to disrupt the thread. As I linked earlier it's your style Sunsong/Sungirl, mostly on PETA or hunting threads. And yes, your anti-hunting posts would fit far better on DU.

People can and do read the threads themselves. The posts and posters that I have labeled as extremist on this thread speak for themselves.

Most people support what President Bush is doing. Those who were bashing Dr. Rice and the President on this thread are extremists, imo. I think that they might be happier on some extremist site. Have you ever tried one. You might like it there :-)

331 posted on 02/07/2005 1:02:38 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
So, for a conclusion, don't try to change the capital of God. Thank you and good night.

Your arrogance is off the charts.

332 posted on 02/07/2005 1:03:53 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I think that you may be happier posting on some extremist site someplace.

Are you inviting me to Libertyforum or Clownposse?

333 posted on 02/07/2005 1:05:00 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Sunsong

Yes and because he is with the Palis, they are now one of the most "developed" poeple in the world...
Together with the other 22 Arab countries in the Middle East who claim God at their side.
Thats why those nations are so "developed" and lost 6 full scale wars against Israel- wars that they started by the name of their god.

Yes allah is indeed with them, you can bet on that!


334 posted on 02/07/2005 1:06:40 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
But what if also the opposite is true? What if America is strong today because it supports Israel? Remember what the Bible says: "Those who bless you, I will bless. Those who curse you, I will curse".

I absolutely believe that to be true, and hope our enemies never divide us.

335 posted on 02/07/2005 1:08:32 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Sunsong
I am in no mood to be manipulated. I suggest that Sharon does what Condi tells him to :-)

Sharon isn't Rice's bitch.

Now, you want to come over and have some venison stew, Sungirl?

336 posted on 02/07/2005 1:08:39 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

ping :)


337 posted on 02/07/2005 1:08:45 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Alouette

Read this: I think that you may be happier posting on some extremist site someplace


338 posted on 02/07/2005 1:09:54 PM PST by Sunsong
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339 posted on 02/07/2005 1:10:03 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
As I say, your arrogance is off the charts. Just keep telling yourself the God loves you best. You could make it a mantra.

But you will never make it true.

340 posted on 02/07/2005 1:11:18 PM PST by Sunsong
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