Posted on 02/06/2005 6:45:18 AM PST by presidio9
In front of a cheering male audience, two young women wearing only bras and panties throw themselves into a mud-filled plastic kiddie pool and roll around in a wild wrestling match.
At one point a man in the audience raises a water bottle and douses the entwined pair.
At another, a "referee" moves in to break up the scantily clad grapplers.
A young blond lifts her T-shirt to expose her breasts. A brunette turns her back to the camera and exposes her thong undies.
These scenes, taken from 30 photos leaked to the Daily News, could have been snapped at an out-of-control frat party.
But this happened a world away from any American college.
The photos were taken in Camp Bucca, the military prison at Umm Qasr in the hot sands of southern Iraq near the Kuwaiti border.
The women are not coeds but military policewomen who had left their uniforms in a pile not far off.
The men are soldiers, too. Most of them wore T-shirts emblazoned with Army logos, but at least one was still wearing his uniform.
Some were sergeants, including the referee, and some allegedly were drunk.
The photos were taken last Oct. 30, in the same period when enemy detainees were being transferred to Camp Bucca from Abu Ghraib, the prison made notorious by photos of Americans torturing naked Iraqis.
The Camp Bucca pictures document no such abuses.
But they do show what experts called a disconcerting lapse in discipline at a time when Army brass was touting the camp as a model of reform.
"It was basically a goodbye party for those of us who were leaving and a welcome party for those coming in," the alleged referee, Sgt. Emil Ganim of the 160th Military Police Battalion, told The News. "It was a chance for people to blow off some steam before coming home after spending a year in a combat zone."
But one participant described less-benign behavior.
Two sergeants, she said, told her "they had been lending out their room for soldiers to have sex" - a serious infraction of military regulations.
One female soldier, a prison guard with the 160th Military Police Battalion, was photographed baring her breast and showing off her thong panties.
The picture apparently was taken in the room of one of those sergeants, an investigator reported.
The witness told investigators that two high-ranking noncommissioned officers, a first sergeant and a master sergeant, were present. She "noted that these NCOs had been drinking and were noticeably drunk," the report said.
Ganim said American civilians at the camp also participated in the party, and "if anybody had liquor, it was them."
Ganim has since returned to his civilian job as a deputy sheriff in Leon County, Fla.
"It appears that this event was allegedly coordinated by NCOs [sergeants] of the 160th," according to the initial investigation.
One of the soldiers told investigators the mud-wrestling match was underway when she arrived.
"She took off her uniform and joined the other female soldiers that were wrestling," the report says. But "once soldiers started asking for the females to expose themselves [she and two of the other wrestlers] put their uniforms back on and left the area."
But at least one woman was not deterred.
Deanna Allen, a 19-year-old prison guard with the 105th MP Battalion, smiled and lifted her T-shirt. Photos show a man standing close to her and leering at her breasts while another G.I. snaps pictures.
"From what I understand they dared her to do it," said Allen's grandmother, Luci Tomlin, in Black Mountain, N.C. "It was a loose moment. She is a strong-headed young lady. Sometimes she can be a little irrational."
Allen, who is still stationed in Iraq, did not respond to E-mailed questions from The News. She was demoted in rank to private first class.
"A sex party with alcohol that is prohibited would suggest a serious breakdown of military discipline," said Washington-based lawyer Eugene Fidell, a military-justice expert. "Just how it would be handled would be determined by the commander, who has very broad discretion in situations like this.
Fidell said punishments could range from "a good chewing out to loss of rank" for enlisted personnel and "a letter or career-killing transfer" for officers who allowed it to happen.
Why do you keep defending this behavior? Were you ever involved in a similar situation and feel like you were treated unfairly? Rules were broken, punishment meted out. It's done and over.
I'm with you. Read my response.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1337165/posts?page=536#536
Amen!!
BS! We partied and had a good time when we served too. But there was always someone that could drive and we never took off our clothes!!! AND we were always mindful that we represented our country both on and off duty during our tenure in the military! Anything else was a dereliction of duty.
If guys got into fights or drunken brawls, they got into trouble. (And yes, it happened, but you sure didn't want it to happen because when your CO found out you paid a price!)
These women should pay a price too. I hope they will. They took off their UNIFORMS to join in! That's disgusting! Women have died and sacrificed while wearing those same uniforms. While serving this country. That's no small matter to those of us who've served.
During "extremely" stressful times!
This should quit your slobbering about the enlisted swine.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1307043/posts
AF issues Article 15 to top military lawyer
USAF Link Public News Releases ^ | 12/22/2004 - RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas | (AFPN)
Posted on 12/22/2004 8:10:15 PM PST by axes_of_weezles AF issues Article 15 to top military lawyer 12/22/2004 - RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- The commander of Air Education and Training Command completed nonjudicial punishment action against the Air Force’s former top military lawyer Dec. 21.
Following a review of an Air Force inspector general investigation into allegations of wrongdoing, Gen. Donald G. Cook, AETC commander, punished Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Fiscus. General Fiscus received nonjudicial punishment under Article 15 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice for conduct unbecoming an officer, fraternization, obstruction of justice and violating a lawful general regulation. As a result of these offenses, General Fiscus was reprimanded and given forfeitures of pay.
In addition, General Cook recommended to Air Force Secretary Dr. James G. Roche that General Fiscus retire in a grade lower than major general. General Cook also recommended the investigation into these offenses be referred for appropriate action to Air Force officials charged with overseeing the Judge Advocate Professional Rules of Conduct and the designation and certification of Air Force lawyers.
Secretary Roche and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. John P. Jumper transferred this matter to General Cook to ensure the full range of administrative and disciplinary options available to a commander would be considered in determining an appropriate resolution of the case. This put the decision in the hands of a four-star general with 35 years of military service.
General Fiscus held the Air Force’s top military legal position as the Judge Advocate General from Feb. 25, 2002, until Sept. 22, 2004, when he was relieved pending the resolution of the allegations against him.
We expect the same from our leaders.
Do you think he got the same treatment as this Spec4?
General Fiscus received nonjudicial punishment under Article 15 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice for conduct unbecoming an officer, fraternization, obstruction of justice and violating a lawful general regulation. As a result of these offenses, General Fiscus was reprimanded and given forfeitures of pay..
RightOnline's self righteousness kind of perturbs me when the lead Lawyer for the USAF did worse and got less punishment.
You do realize they were taking away a pay grade don't you?
I'd say they were holding him pretty accountable. General Fiscus was reprimanded and given forfeitures of pay also.
So what is your point?
Perhaps I'm missing something here. Thanks
Hammerhead, what do YOU realy know about what went on at Tailhook?
Axes: I'm a former enlisted and a current officer. The phrase "here ya go Mr Ring-Knocker" was disrespectfull and childish. The specialist got knocked down to PFC and the General lost a star. Who do you think lost more monthly pay?!?!?
What was your service again???? How far did you progress???
Coop! I have to ask again, WHAT WAS YOUR SERVICE!?!?!
would the feelings of shame be the same if they were at collage partipating in frat /sorority functions?
They aren't. They are members of the United States military.
They weren't in public. They were in a combat zone, where they're "in public" 24/7. Get a grip and put this into perspective.
Why do you keep trying to crucify troops for a very minor infraction? You remind me of the people who wanted to discharge/imprison the Marine for killing the wounded man. It's really easy to judge from the comfort of your own living room.
Okay, whatever you say.
What?!?! That's disgraceful. You've dishonored the memories of all those who served before...blah...blah...blah
Don't know about his, but my point is it's absolutely disgraceful to see folks lining up to criticize the young men and women on the front lines, ready to destroy their careers because a few got drunk and a couple got carried away. It's disgusting!
So I guess you're comfortable with the half dozen or so "panty-raid photo fools" who are now or soon will be serving time in prison? Rules were broken, and now they're paying, right?
WRONG!
You're an officer. Figure it out, Doc.
Soldiers getting drunk and stupid. Strippers. Men and women having sex. Never happened in my Army. (fingers crossed behind back)
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