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To: B4Ranch
Of course I am very concerned about another terrorist act on the US, and I am 100% for much stronger border enforcement where the terrorists may come, although for the record the 9/11 murderers terrorists came here legally and not illegally.

What I am against is this raging craze about illegal immigration and the Bush bashing regrading his proposal to solve one aspect of the immigration problem, and that is what to do with the 15 million illegal immigrants who are "already here".

In the 1950's the US government launched "Operation Wetback" to deport over one million illegal immigrants from Mexico and they failed miserably because it created a huge backlash

And in 1950's the TV, and the media, was not nearly as powerful as it is now. Imagine we are doing this now, and the backlash that will occur afterward.

Think about live broadcast on your TV screens coming from TV cameras following the INS to restaurants to arrest the illegal immigrant busboy who cleans our tables, to the malls to arrest the illegal immigrant crew who clean the floor, to our work places to arrest the illegal immigrants who clean our bathrooms and pickup our garbage, to the apartment buildings and houses and hundred of million of people for deportation, including millions of women and children.

Can you take these pictures, I cannot, and so 80% of the American population, and no politician will take responsibility for this, including the most radical ones on the illegal immigration issue, they will all hide and run away, and wash their hands from this. You can show all your Macho things how we should deport 15 million illegal immigrants. However when it will start happening and you see it on your TV screens with your children in the living room watching it as well, then we will see how much and how long you can hold.

I know why President Bush cannot order the deportation of the millions of illegal immigrants because he knows exactly what is going to happen, and that is why he suggested the Guest Worker Program as a way practical way to deal with the 15 million illegal immigrant who are already here. Of course we need to work more on preventing illegal immigrants who are already here from living on welfare but this is mostly "State issues" and not federal issues. And we must definitely strengthen our borders control to prevent new waves of illegal immigrants from coming to the US, but those who are already here, you have to deal with them end of story.

President Bush has one of the few practical solution to deal with the illegal immigrants who are already in the US because the deportation of 15 millions illegal is just impossible.

241 posted on 02/01/2005 11:12:33 AM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

"because the deportation of 15 millions illegal is just impossible."

That is a flat out lie. For a country that has established democracy in two arab/muslim nations nothing is impossible.


243 posted on 02/01/2005 11:14:46 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: jveritas
>>Think about live broadcast on your TV screens coming from TV cameras following the INS to restaurants to arrest the illegal immigrant busboy who cleans our tables, to the malls to arrest the illegal immigrant crew who clean the floor, to our work places to arrest the illegal immigrants who clean our bathrooms and pickup our garbage, to the apartment buildings and houses and hundred of million of people for deportation, including millions of women and children.<<

>> Can you take these pictures, I cannot <<

What in the Hell do you mean , "I cannot ?

Are you an American who has America's interests and the interests of American citizens before all others? Have you ever carried a weapon in defense of America?

If the answers are no, then stop right there! Come to big frigging screeching HALT!Answer those question so I have an idea just how hard to slap the snot out of your empty head.

247 posted on 02/01/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: jveritas
In the 1950's the US government launched "Operation Wetback" to deport over one million illegal immigrants from Mexico and they failed miserably because it created a huge backlash

Where did you get this rewritten history? Drago told you to look it up on Google six weeks ago. Here's a description from a Cato economist wonk (due to it's very name it's difficult to find references to Operation Wetback that aren't tainted by a writer's political agenda):

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- " In 1954 the INS made a concerted effort to control the flows. The result was called "Operation Wetback" and universally deemed a success. The 1955 INS annual report concluded that "the so-called 'wetback' problem no longer exists.... The border has been secured." The commissioner of the INS who accomplished this feat was retired Army General Joseph Swing, who was appointed in the spring of 1954. The INS annual report reveals the tactics and character of Operation Wetback.

A large scale task force operation in the Southwest, working in proximity of the border, accounted for a great majority of apprehensions. This "Special Mobile Force Operation" began in California in the last days of fiscal 1954 and after the backbone of the wetback invasion was broken in California, shifted to South Texas. Mobile task forces were assembled and set into action. Light planes were used in locating illegal aliens and directing ground jeeps to effect apprehensions. Transport planes were used to airlift aliens to staking areas for prompt return to Mexico....

These activities were followed by mopping up operations in the interior and special mobile force units are continuing to discover illegal aliens who have eluded initial sweeps through such cities as Spokane, Chicago, Ransas City and St. Louis, which removed 20,174 illegal Mexican aliens from industrial jobs.

Advocates of increased enforcement should recall the militaristic tactics used in Operation Wetback and the price paid by the Mexican-American community. The incentives for immigration are so strong that it can't be stopped with anything short of military force."
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President Eisenhower instituted this operation due to cries from agricultural interests when too many of the "braceros" they brought in found industrial work to be far more lucrative than the pittance they were paid by the growers. Post WWII America also had no more need for the Mexicans who (like women as a group) shored up the labor shortage the war caused. When the troops were decommissioned the women went back to their traditional roles as homemakers and the Mexicans were distinctly alien bodies in the way of societies returning heroes (yet another instance of a group's refusal to assimilate with their host society backfiring on them).

One thing the economist failed to mention was the way illegal immigrants began to self-deport as word of the operation spread. Some estimates account for around half a million self-deporting, far more than the number actually rounded up and forcibly deported. This is why I maintain on these threads that just beginning prosecutions of the blatant employers, cutting as many services as possible, a serious crackdown on document frauds and making the motions toward mass roundups will find a seeming miracle occur - mass exodus of illegals on their own dime. Hopefully they'll finally take up the long put-off business of improving their own governments and societies.

By the way, keep your eyes open out there. You may have heard what happened to a nice family of Egyptian Coptics in New Jersey. The fanatics responsible for that would surely like to get their hands on you and everyone else they consider apostates.

378 posted on 02/01/2005 6:38:22 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Unrepentent politically-incorrect Nativist who believes America comes first (because we earned it)
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To: jveritas
In the 1950's the US government launched "Operation Wetback" to deport over one million illegal immigrants from Mexico and they failed miserably because it created a huge backlash

Got a link to this huge backlash that *you* speak of ????

It surly wasn't any political *backlash* against President Eisenhower who won a landslide election in 1952 with some 442 electoral votes & was reelected in 1956 by even a larger margin.....with 457 electoral votes.

Most US *voters* I've known from those times thought "Operation Wetback" was a huge success.

Just as most US *voters* today agree we need a more *politically correct*.....OPERATION DEPORT. (to cover ALL illegals)

414 posted on 02/01/2005 7:56:50 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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