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A Challenge for the all "illegal Immigration" obsessed freepers.

Posted on 01/31/2005 8:31:00 PM PST by jveritas

Edited on 01/31/2005 8:36:26 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

In the last three months the obsessed minority of freepers but very vocal who hate President Bush have been bombarding us with every illegal immigration thread under the sun so they have their "BASH BUSH ORGY".

Since these freepers want to deport every illegal immigrant, here is the challenge for you:

Pick up your phone and report to the INS about an illegal immigrant and his employer. I am sure you know at least one illegal immigrant who works in a convenient store, on a gas station, clean the garbage in your office, clean the bathroom at your work place... And I am sure you know one of these employers who hire illegal immigrants. Go ahead Macho Guys, do your duty and report them to the INS. Let us see how courageous you are and let us see your action following your rhetoric.

Go ahead, ping each other and show us your heroism.


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1 posted on 01/31/2005 8:31:00 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

You know you're in for it now. :)


2 posted on 01/31/2005 8:33:19 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: jveritas
Go ahead Mucho Guys

Mucho? Yeah, there are a lot of us.

3 posted on 01/31/2005 8:34:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: jveritas

Better yet!

Go to "Save Our License" and download the petition, sign it and get your family and friends to sign it and mail it in!

http://www.saveourlicense.com



4 posted on 01/31/2005 8:36:29 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I saw that too! ;-D


5 posted on 01/31/2005 8:37:23 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: jveritas
I don't hate our president but yet I'm very angry and concerned with his immigration policies. Specially the Lunatic Sanctuary Policy.
6 posted on 01/31/2005 8:40:58 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: COEXERJ145

ping


7 posted on 01/31/2005 8:43:21 PM PST by jveritas
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To: Joe Hadenuf; JustAnAmerican; JustAnotherSavage

Come on guys, where are you hiding.


8 posted on 01/31/2005 8:44:37 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California -- which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide -- $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.
A key finding of the report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) said the state's already struggling kindergarten-through-12th-grade education system spends $7.7 billion a year on children of illegal aliens, who constitute 15 percent of the student body.
The report also said the incarceration of convicted illegal aliens in state prisons and jails and uncompensated medical outlays for health care provided to illegal aliens each amounted to about $1.4 billion annually. The incarceration costs did not include judicial expenditures or the monetary costs of the crimes committed by illegal aliens that led to their incarceration.
"California's addiction to 'cheap' illegal-alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state's shrinking middle-class tax base," said FAIR President Dan Stein.
"Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become," he said.
California is estimated to be home to nearly 3 million illegal aliens.
Mr. Stein noted that state and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but do not match expenses. The total of such payments was estimated in the report to be about $1.6 billion per year.
He also said the total cost of illegal immigration to the state's taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas, such as special English instruction, school meal programs or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal-alien workers were added into the equation.
Gerardo Gonzalez, director of the National Latino Research Center at California State at San Marcos, which compiles data on Hispanics, was critical of FAIR's report yesterday. He said FAIR's estimates did not measure some of the contributions that illegal aliens make to the state's economy.
"Beyond taxes, these workers' production and spending contribute to California's economy, especially the agricultural sector," he said, adding that both legal and illegal aliens are the "backbone" of the state's $28 billion-a-year agricultural industry.
In August, a similar study by the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, said U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion.
The FAIR report focused on three specific program areas because those were the costs examined by researchers from the Urban Institute in 1994, Mr. Stein said. Looking at the costs of education, health care and incarceration for illegal aliens in 1994, the Urban Institute estimated that California was subsidizing illegal immigrants at about $1.1 billion a year.
Mr. Stein said an enormous rise in the costs of illegal immigrants in 10 years is because of the rapid growth of the illegal population. He said it is reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.
"1994 was the same year that California voters rebelled and overwhelmingly passed Proposition 187, which sought to limit liability for mass illegal immigration," he said. "Since then, state and local governments have blatantly ignored the wishes of the voters and continued to shell out publicly financed benefits on illegal aliens.
"Predictably, the costs of illegal immigration have grown geometrically, while the state has spiraled into a fiscal crisis that has brought it near bankruptcy," he said.
Mr. Stein said that the state must adopt measures to systematically collect information on illegal-alien use of taxpayer-funded services and on where they are employed, and that policies need to be pursued to hold employers financially accountable.


http://www.washingtontimes.com


9 posted on 01/31/2005 8:45:02 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: jveritas
In the last three months the obsessed minority of freepers but very vocal who hate President Bush have been bombarding us with every illegal immigration thread under the sun so they have their "BASH BUSH ORGY".

Posting ridiculous vanities is bad enough, the least you could do is post something that makes sense.

10 posted on 01/31/2005 8:45:26 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: jveritas

over here! LMAO


11 posted on 01/31/2005 8:46:01 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: jveritas

Do you support illegal immigration?


12 posted on 01/31/2005 8:46:59 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: kellynla

Pick up your phone and do it.


13 posted on 01/31/2005 8:47:50 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

Uh-oh. LOL

You picked up on the hypocrisy?

I firmly believe we need to get a hold of our borders, though less for reasons of security. It has more to do with preserving American culture. Rather than importing socialists, those that go through the citizenship process or come here legally illustrate from the start a loyalty, understanding and respect for our laws and history. This is part of what gives us strength.

But I have nothing in common with those that are obsessed, racist, or the "right" contingent of the ABB crowd. I usually avoid the immigration threads feeling I'll gain little from the association.

I will admit to hypocrisy. Much as I am in disagreement with the President on this issue, I've never picked up a phone to report an illegal. Most Americans would not. There is a bit of hypocrisy in the demand politicians take the rap for something we are not willing to do ourselves. Sure, it's their job. But we're their employers.


14 posted on 01/31/2005 8:47:50 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: jveritas; Howlin; PRND21; Dane; Joe Hadenuf


Interesting post.
Good thinking.

I suspect our resident Bush bashers won't take your challenge...

the last challenge they took was

the Pepsi challenge and they chose Jif...

smart guys that they are.


15 posted on 01/31/2005 8:47:54 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: Soul Seeker

I like your honesty.


16 posted on 01/31/2005 8:49:27 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

I have!

In fact if you give me your name and address I will have the INS come by and see if you have any illegals working for you! LOL (nice to have relatives at the INS LOL)


17 posted on 01/31/2005 8:50:30 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: pgkdan

Pick up your phone and call the INS. What are you afraid from?! Feeling guilty are you?!


18 posted on 01/31/2005 8:50:40 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

I agree with you about the Bush bashing, but I have problems with illegal immigration. I've stated a couple of zillion times on this board that I have no problem with anyone who wants to come to the US legally, and live the American dream. However, I don't see the point of this "calling out" that you're doing.


19 posted on 01/31/2005 8:51:51 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: Richard Kimball

I do. Almost all Freepers have a problem with illegal yet few care to do anything about it.


20 posted on 01/31/2005 8:53:27 PM PST by sanchez810
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