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Juan Manuel Alvarez, man who caused yesterday's multiple train derailment, is a U.S. citizen
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin ^
| 1/27/05
| Troy Anderson, Staff Writer
Posted on 01/27/2005 12:12:56 PM PST by Wolfstar
Alvarez's estranged wife said he threatened her and her family and threatened to abduct their 3-year-old son, although he never physically assaulted her, according to a request for a temporary restraining order that was granted Dec. 14, The Associated Press reported.
"He threatened to take our kid away and to hurt my family members," Carmelita Alvarez said. "He is planning on selling his vehicle to buy a gun and threatened to use it. He is using drugs and has been in and out of rehab twice."
[SNIP]
Alvarez, a U.S. citizen, watched as the train barreled into his SUV shortly after 6 a.m.
"He was found right at the scene," [Glendale Police Chief Randy] Adams said. "The suspect has admitted placing his vehicle on the tracks."
[SNIP]
U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Thom Mrozek said there is potential federal jurisdiction with a possible death penalty in the case.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...
TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aliens; alvarez; blc; california; derailment; glendale; immmigrantlist; juanmanuel; loco; metrolink; train; unionpacific
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To: Wolfstar
"Just a ping to this for your info. We had a good discussion on yesterday's big thread about this incident."
Thanks for the ping Wolfstar. As I tried to explain on the other thread, it just didn't make sense to me that the press would sit on information that would enflame the situation more than it already is. The press just loves to fight fires with gasoline.
Would the press sit on the information? Possible, but not probable, at least in my opinion.
Now we have to do what we can to make sure this guy gets the punishment he deserves. As an aside and in reference to and "Insanity" defense, by definition, wouldn't you have to be just a little bit unstable commit any kind of violent crime?
They had mentally imbalanced folks during the 1800's, it's just that when they killed someone, they ended up swinging from the end of a rope. How I long for the days when we were uncivilized . . . there was so much less crime and corruption.
Best Regards
Sergio
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:06:38 PM PST
by
Sergio
(If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
To: Wolfstar
Where was he born, anybody know?
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:13:23 PM PST
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: Wolfstar
Ping far later read.....both threads.
123
posted on
01/27/2005 2:21:04 PM PST
by
506trooper
(No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
To: SandyInSeattle
So can everybody who immediately assumed he was an illegal alien shut up now?At least until the next time a Hispanic is within 10 miles of a crime or accident.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:59:40 PM PST
by
TankerKC
(The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
To: Sergio
The press just loves to fight fires with gasoline. Absolutely! Sensationalism is the media's bread and butter.
As for this guy ever getting the justice he deserves, the way our judicial system is these days, I'm highly skeptical. Which, of course, is your point as well.
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:00:58 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
To: PLMerite
Where was he born, anybody know?I haven't found any info about that.
126
posted on
01/27/2005 3:01:48 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
To: Wolfstar
ROTFLOL!
Good one, girlfriend!
127
posted on
01/27/2005 3:04:38 PM PST
by
onyx
("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
To: jagusafr
128
posted on
01/27/2005 3:04:48 PM PST
by
TankerKC
(The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
To: TenaciousZ
Hopefully this at least will assuage some of the anti-illegal suspicions and insanity that has been stirred up.Don't hold your breath.
129
posted on
01/27/2005 3:06:14 PM PST
by
PRND21
To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady; FITZ
130
posted on
01/27/2005 3:06:30 PM PST
by
TankerKC
(The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
To: Wolfstar
Oh yeah? What is the status on his parents, grand parents? Illegal immigration has been going on for decades.
To: wardaddy
Exactly right.
Immigration followed by South bashing.
132
posted on
01/27/2005 3:06:54 PM PST
by
onyx
("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
To: onyx
Hi, onyx. Long time, no "see." How's everything with you? If you have the time, read some of the outlandish statements on this thread. So this dude turns out to be a citizen. Well, that's not enough for some. Now they want to know where his parents came from, and where he was born, etc. Some things never change.
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:07:08 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
To: MissAmericanPie
Oh yeah? What is the status on his parents, grand parents? Illegal immigration has been going on for decades.Troublemaker! [huge wink]
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:08:37 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
To: sinkspur
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:08:46 PM PST
by
Neets
To: BurbankKarl
Link please!
JK.
Great post Karl.
136
posted on
01/27/2005 3:10:58 PM PST
by
onyx
("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
To: Wolfstar
Hi Wolfstar. Everything is 'right fine, thank you,'
and I have just now finished reading every comment on
this thread... none from Joe...lol... but I see his
thread is still running.
Damn shame, ain't it, that this perp ruined their
tirade by not being an illegal?
137
posted on
01/27/2005 3:18:16 PM PST
by
onyx
("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
To: SandyInSeattle
As we saw yesterday on this board, the question of citizenship was the first thing many people thought of. And the second accusation was that he was a Mexican Jihadist.
The average IQ on our proud forum slowly sinks into the sunset.
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:19:26 PM PST
by
iconoclast
(Conservative, not partisan.)
To: montag813
IF he is ever executed, it won't be in CA's gas chamber
unless he specifically requests the chamber over the needle.
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:21:05 PM PST
by
onyx
("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
To: drjimmy
BINGO!!!!!
Won't do a damn bit of good to post that, but I am glad you said it anyway.
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posted on
01/27/2005 3:22:26 PM PST
by
chronic_loser
(The mindless violence of 99% of Muslims give a bad name to the rest of Islam)
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