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Juan Manuel Alvarez, man who caused yesterday's multiple train derailment, is a U.S. citizen
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin ^ | 1/27/05 | Troy Anderson, Staff Writer

Posted on 01/27/2005 12:12:56 PM PST by Wolfstar

Alvarez's estranged wife said he threatened her and her family and threatened to abduct their 3-year-old son, although he never physically assaulted her, according to a request for a temporary restraining order that was granted Dec. 14, The Associated Press reported.

"He threatened to take our kid away and to hurt my family members," Carmelita Alvarez said. "He is planning on selling his vehicle to buy a gun and threatened to use it. He is using drugs and has been in and out of rehab twice."

[SNIP]

Alvarez, a U.S. citizen, watched as the train barreled into his SUV shortly after 6 a.m.

"He was found right at the scene," [Glendale Police Chief Randy] Adams said. "The suspect has admitted placing his vehicle on the tracks."

[SNIP]

U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Thom Mrozek said there is potential federal jurisdiction with a possible death penalty in the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aliens; alvarez; blc; california; derailment; glendale; immmigrantlist; juanmanuel; loco; metrolink; train; unionpacific
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To: Wolfstar

"Just a ping to this for your info. We had a good discussion on yesterday's big thread about this incident."




Thanks for the ping Wolfstar. As I tried to explain on the other thread, it just didn't make sense to me that the press would sit on information that would enflame the situation more than it already is. The press just loves to fight fires with gasoline.

Would the press sit on the information? Possible, but not probable, at least in my opinion.

Now we have to do what we can to make sure this guy gets the punishment he deserves. As an aside and in reference to and "Insanity" defense, by definition, wouldn't you have to be just a little bit unstable commit any kind of violent crime?

They had mentally imbalanced folks during the 1800's, it's just that when they killed someone, they ended up swinging from the end of a rope. How I long for the days when we were uncivilized . . . there was so much less crime and corruption.

Best Regards

Sergio


121 posted on 01/27/2005 2:06:38 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Wolfstar

Where was he born, anybody know?


122 posted on 01/27/2005 2:13:23 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Wolfstar

Ping far later read.....both threads.


123 posted on 01/27/2005 2:21:04 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: SandyInSeattle
So can everybody who immediately assumed he was an illegal alien shut up now?

At least until the next time a Hispanic is within 10 miles of a crime or accident.

124 posted on 01/27/2005 2:59:40 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: Sergio
The press just loves to fight fires with gasoline.

Absolutely! Sensationalism is the media's bread and butter.

As for this guy ever getting the justice he deserves, the way our judicial system is these days, I'm highly skeptical. Which, of course, is your point as well.

125 posted on 01/27/2005 3:00:58 PM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: PLMerite
Where was he born, anybody know?

I haven't found any info about that.

126 posted on 01/27/2005 3:01:48 PM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: Wolfstar


ROTFLOL!
Good one, girlfriend!


127 posted on 01/27/2005 3:04:38 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: jagusafr
An attempt to head off negative comments at the pass?

He's too late to head them off at the pass. Go back to yesterday's thread and see for yourself.

Commuter train derails in Glendale (Update: Crash escalates to criminal probe) ^

128 posted on 01/27/2005 3:04:48 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: TenaciousZ
Hopefully this at least will assuage some of the anti-illegal suspicions and insanity that has been stirred up.

Don't hold your breath.

129 posted on 01/27/2005 3:06:14 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady; FITZ

snicker


130 posted on 01/27/2005 3:06:30 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: Wolfstar

Oh yeah? What is the status on his parents, grand parents? Illegal immigration has been going on for decades.


131 posted on 01/27/2005 3:06:47 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: wardaddy


Exactly right.
Immigration followed by South bashing.


132 posted on 01/27/2005 3:06:54 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: onyx

Hi, onyx. Long time, no "see." How's everything with you? If you have the time, read some of the outlandish statements on this thread. So this dude turns out to be a citizen. Well, that's not enough for some. Now they want to know where his parents came from, and where he was born, etc. Some things never change.


133 posted on 01/27/2005 3:07:08 PM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Oh yeah? What is the status on his parents, grand parents? Illegal immigration has been going on for decades.

Troublemaker! [huge wink]

134 posted on 01/27/2005 3:08:37 PM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: sinkspur

I love you.


135 posted on 01/27/2005 3:08:46 PM PST by Neets
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To: BurbankKarl


Link please!
JK.
Great post Karl.


136 posted on 01/27/2005 3:10:58 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: Wolfstar


Hi Wolfstar. Everything is 'right fine, thank you,'
and I have just now finished reading every comment on
this thread... none from Joe...lol... but I see his
thread is still running.

Damn shame, ain't it, that this perp ruined their
tirade by not being an illegal?




137 posted on 01/27/2005 3:18:16 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
As we saw yesterday on this board, the question of citizenship was the first thing many people thought of.

And the second accusation was that he was a Mexican Jihadist.

The average IQ on our proud forum slowly sinks into the sunset.

138 posted on 01/27/2005 3:19:26 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: montag813


IF he is ever executed, it won't be in CA's gas chamber
unless he specifically requests the chamber over the needle.


139 posted on 01/27/2005 3:21:05 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: drjimmy
BINGO!!!!!
Won't do a damn bit of good to post that, but I am glad you said it anyway.
140 posted on 01/27/2005 3:22:26 PM PST by chronic_loser (The mindless violence of 99% of Muslims give a bad name to the rest of Islam)
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