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To: RnMomof7

We are saved the way God says he will save us. The Bible says that many things lead to salvation, including grace, faith, repentance, confession, and baptism. They are all necessary. God's grace is not unconditional, if it was, then everyone that has ever lived would be saved, and the Bible clearly teaches that is not the truth.


913 posted on 01/28/2005 2:23:44 PM PST by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122
We are saved the way God says he will save us. The Bible says that many things lead to salvation, including grace, faith, repentance, confession, and baptism. They are all necessary. God's grace is not unconditional, if it was, then everyone that has ever lived would be saved, and the Bible clearly teaches that is not the truth.

Can you show me where Baptism and grace are ever ever placed on the same level?

Where does it say by baptism and law keeping you are saved?

If GRACE IS UNDESERVED FAVOR.. how can it have any conditions?

915 posted on 01/28/2005 2:36:49 PM PST by RnMomof7
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God's grace is not unconditional, if it was, then everyone that has ever lived would be saved, and the Bible clearly teaches that is not the truth.

Do you have a scripture on this? Where does it say that Gods grace is conditional?

Does not God give grace to those HE chooses?

Why must it be universalism or works? You have a very limited god

916 posted on 01/28/2005 2:41:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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