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To: jkl1122
We are saved the way God says he will save us. The Bible says that many things lead to salvation, including grace, faith, repentance, confession, and baptism. They are all necessary. God's grace is not unconditional, if it was, then everyone that has ever lived would be saved, and the Bible clearly teaches that is not the truth.

Can you show me where Baptism and grace are ever ever placed on the same level?

Where does it say by baptism and law keeping you are saved?

If GRACE IS UNDESERVED FAVOR.. how can it have any conditions?

915 posted on 01/28/2005 2:36:49 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

1 Peter 5:5
"Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all [of you] be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble."

This verse says that God gives grace to those who are humble and submit themselves to the elders. In the verses preceding this one, Peter tells the elders to watch over their flock and continue to teach them. If grace is unconditional as you say, then why does Peter say just the opposite here. Is he "mistaken" yet again as you said he was in Acts 2:38, even though the Holy Spirit guided the writers of the Scriptures?


926 posted on 01/29/2005 7:12:28 AM PST by jkl1122
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