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To: jkl1122; HarleyD
I have a salvation based on Jesus giving His life on the Cross for the forgiveness of my sins, and my submission to His will.

That's a clear statement of your position.

Do you not see that you are adding to Christ's redemptive work by your own agreement to "submit to His will?" This submission is dependent on your good sense, piety and righteousness, not upon Christ's redemptive sacrifice alone.

I remember when that was first pointed out to me. It took another 50 times to finally be able to say "Oh, NOW I get it!" Salvation is either all of God, ordained by Him from before the foundation of the world according to His will alone, or men share in the decision of salvation through temporal means, i.e. agreement, submission, sacramental participation, financial support, intelligence, desires, yadayadayada...The closer to Rome, the more requirements in order to be saved.

Either/or. Monergistic/synergistic. God saved me/I help God save me.

809 posted on 01/27/2005 2:06:23 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I have Biblical support for my position.

Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will
of My Father in heaven."


810 posted on 01/27/2005 2:12:27 PM PST by jkl1122
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