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To: nobdysfool
Let me get this straight...man has to DO something, but that something he DOES is not a work. A work is, by definition, DOING something. So if he must DO something, how can it not be a work? Again, you want to have it both ways, in order to preserve your false ordo salutis.

No, doing something is not a work by Biblical definitions.

You can accept a free gift and it not be a work.

A work is something you can demand payment for.

You are confusing being active and passive with grace and works.

See Rom.4 for further information.

188 posted on 01/22/2005 1:58:34 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
You are confusing being active and passive with grace and works.

Can't answer the logic, can you? My own testimony collapses your argument.

194 posted on 01/22/2005 2:07:36 PM PST by nobdysfool (Faith in Christ is the evidence of God's choosing, not the cause of it.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
You can accept a free gift and it not be a work. A work is something you can demand payment for. You are confusing being active and passive with grace and works. See Rom.4 for further information.

But it is not a "free gift" is it Dec? Your theology says God foresaw your correct choice and rewarded you for it.

If it was indeed a FREE gift NOTHING would be necessary would it? Demanding any act makes it wages due

Define grace and mercy for me deck ...

204 posted on 01/22/2005 2:36:13 PM PST by RnMomof7
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