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To: fortheDeclaration

***What part of Gen.18:25 do you not understand?***

Perhaps it is the part about God doing right being judged by Arminian standards of what is right and what is arbitrary.

So, if you can show me a verse which teaches that God is not arbitrary by your Arminian definition, I'll be happy to look at it.

Until then, this is yet another humanistic presupposition imposed on Scriptures; i.e. man judging God my man's standard, not God's.

***You cannot be doing right if you are being arbitary.***

Well, let's look at a dictionary definition of arbitrary:

Based on or subject to individual (read God's) judgment.
Established by a court or judge (read God).

Now, both of those are legitimate definitions of arbitrary. Please explain to me why God is not doing right if His judgments are rendered by God. Is there some higher power or standard to which God must bow in order to make his appeal for what is right and wrong? If so, I'd like for you Arminians to show me where it is and then explain to me why you don't worship a power higher than God.

Also, please show me where, if God makes his election based upon nothing to be found in or done by man, that this somehow makes God arbitrary and doing something wrong.

Thanks,
Christian.


110 posted on 01/22/2005 11:01:41 AM PST by thePilgrim
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To: thePilgrim
***What part of Gen.18:25 do you not understand?*** Perhaps it is the part about God doing right being judged by Arminian standards of what is right and what is arbitrary.

So, if you can show me a verse which teaches that God is not arbitrary by your Arminian definition, I'll be happy to look at it. Until then, this is yet another humanistic presupposition imposed on Scriptures; i.e. man judging God my man's standard, not God's. ***You cannot be doing right if you are being arbitary.*** Well, let's look at a dictionary definition of arbitrary: Based on or subject to individual (read God's) judgment. Established by a court or judge (read God).

I have a dictonary that states, 'left to ones whim', capricious and despotic.

Now, that certanily does sound like the God of Calvinism alright.

It is not however the God of the Bible, who judges fairly based on objective standards that He Himself sets.

That is why Abraham (the great Arminian hero of Faith) could ask that question to the Lord since He knew God was not a Calvinistic God.

The Calvinist prophet Jonah found that out also and sulked.

Also, please show me where, if God makes his election based upon nothing to be found in or done by man, that this somehow makes God arbitrary and doing something wrong.

Because all men are equal before God (not being a respector of persons Rom.2:11), so why would God damn one and not another?

What critera would He use?

Your view of God is no different than any Muslim.

118 posted on 01/22/2005 11:12:50 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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