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To: ovrtaxt
Rep. John Hostettler of Indiana, chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, Judiciary Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. of Wisconsin and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas, who controls which bills reach the floor, all oppose granting legal status to illegal immigrants in the United States.

"And then you come to the rank-and-file guys," Mr. Hayworth said, "who, on nine out of 10 items agree with the administration, this is the 10th item. And now, if it goes to number one on the priority list, it is the item where there will be serious debate and discussion and ultimately rejection of this initiative."

I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue. It's so out of phase with everything else he's doing.

2 posted on 01/13/2005 2:58:00 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Are the leftists still allowing us to say 'Happy New Year'?)
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Reforms to Social Security and the tax code have just been put in the backroom. Open borders and green card amnesty are his priorities.


3 posted on 01/13/2005 3:00:51 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: ovrtaxt

It's personal for Bush, the public and constitution be damned.


12 posted on 01/13/2005 9:10:32 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: ovrtaxt
"I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue. It's so out of phase with everything else he's doing. "

You are confused because you are reading things into the article that aren't there. For example, the fact that Tom Delay opposes amnesty doesn't mean that he opposes a guest worker plan. Tom will be one of the leaders in getting the President's plan passed.

The U.S. economy is dependendent upon immigrant employees. The US population only grew 1% last year, including both legal and illegal immigrants. Without immigrants we would be losing population. Already some areas are experiencing a labor shortage.

37 posted on 01/13/2005 3:38:52 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue. It's so out of phase with everything else he's doing.

Not really.

48 posted on 01/13/2005 4:14:09 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue.

For the Dems it is to import voters. For Bush, it is to heed the business interests who benefit from cheap labor. Cheap labor is a powerful interest. We fought a war over it. From Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address:

One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.

If cheap labor in the form of slaves is worth waging a war over, the peculiar interest of cheap labor from illegals will too have significant political influence. It is manifest in the inexplicable actions of the Bush Administration.

The peculiar interest dares not unfurl its banner proclaiming "CHEAP LABOR". Instead it hides its motivations, obfuscates, hurls accusations against those that oppose it, rhapsodizes about diversity and our immigration heritage, etc.

Just read the Wall Street Journal op ed pieces, and you'll see what illegal proponents are reduced to advocating.

53 posted on 01/13/2005 4:33:33 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: ovrtaxt

"I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue. It's so out of phase with everything else he's doing."

Ok maybe this is a stretch and a bit far fetched, but do you think it's possible that he's using some strategery - -Vicente Fox is pushing Bush, Bush agrees because of oil, gas, whatever, But, Bush knows it doesn't have a chance in h*ll of getting through congress. He can go back to Fox and say, geez Vinnie, I tried, but my hands are tied 'cause even my own party in Congress won't back me on this one.


68 posted on 01/13/2005 7:10:19 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: ovrtaxt
I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue. It's so out of phase with everything else he's doing.

It is perfectly consistent with 'W's public policies. He is not an American, and we are not American citizens. We are global citizens and he the global leader for the cause of freedom.

This is why spending $15 billion to cure AIDS in Cambodian prostitutes and spending upwards of a billion dollars in Indonesia on people who hate our guts fits in perfectly with forcing you and the rest of the global citizens already in this country to accept yet more global citizens who are willing to do the work you won't do.

237 posted on 01/14/2005 5:13:57 PM PST by Reuben Hick
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To: ovrtaxt
I just can't figure out Bush's logic on this whole issue.

Uh, do you think it might have something to do with some of his big campaign contributors. Somebody is making money by hiring these illegals.

264 posted on 01/14/2005 7:19:53 PM PST by ladyjane
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