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To: Poohbah; Blood of Tyrants; Non-Sequitur
If your neighbors announce that they are seceding from the Union, claim your property as part of "their" country, and finally demand that you leave "their" country, are they entitled to use deadly force to effect such transfer?

Misleading analogy.

Neighbors aren't States. Neighbors aren't The People.

The People are entitled to do all these things, and to use deadly force as well. Those are the attributes of sovereignty -- being a sovereign, master of one's own country.

Either the People are sovereign or they are not, and if they are not, someone else is sovereign. So I'll put to you the same question I put to Non-Sequitur: who is the sovereign? Or more bluntly, who is your sovereign? Who's your daddy, subject?

806 posted on 01/12/2005 11:56:11 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The People are entitled to do all these things, and to use deadly force as well.

Well then, aren't the People entitled to defend themselves against your aggression?

807 posted on 01/12/2005 12:01:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Neighbors aren't States. Neighbors aren't The People.

Your neighbors just declared that they were The People, forming a new State, and that your property is in their new nation's territory.

The People are entitled to do all these things, and to use deadly force as well. Those are the attributes of sovereignty -- being a sovereign, master of one's own country.

And they just declared their newly-declared State to be sovereign over your land, and demanded that you leave immediately. No mention of compensation for said land--they just want you gone.

Now, are those People sovereign, or are you going to impose your tyranny upon them?

811 posted on 01/12/2005 12:17:43 PM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: lentulusgracchus; Poohbah; Non-Sequitur
The People are entitled to do all these things, and to use deadly force as well. Those are the attributes of sovereignty -- being a sovereign, master of one's own country.

To reinforce that, here are the first two sections of Article 1 from the Tennessee State Constitution:

Sec. 1. That all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; for the advancement of those ends they have at all times, an unalienable and indfeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper.

Sec. 2. That government being instituted for the common benefit, the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.


815 posted on 01/12/2005 12:21:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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