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To: M. Espinola
"Confederate voting rights?" What is that, another illusion from the demented neo-confeds? Try voting for the 'Confederate ticket' the next time at the polls.

I don't know if you're that dumb or obtuse, or simply ignorant. Giving you the benefit of a doubt the 14th Amendment enacted ex post facto Bills of Attainder (both unconstitutional) measures that deprived ex-Confederate soldiers and politicians of the right to vote, as well as prohibiting the same from holding elected state/federal offices.

So I repeat, I'm happy to know that you condemn the 14th Amendment as illegal due to it's revocation of Confederate voting rights.

Just as an aside, with the readmission of states that the union said never seceded, each state was required to allow blacks the right of suffrage (the vote). That meant blacks could vote in the South, but were denied the vote in 16 yankee states.

What's the matter, does the quote I made "Supremacist advocating despots" fit you like a wet glove, that is why you responded so viciously?

I referred to you as the despot - your posts are full of hatred for all things Southern. I'll type slower if you're having a problem reading what I typed.

You & your comrade secessionists are the only 'conservatives'? lol ..please give anyone a break. So, now hate groups are conservatives?

See, you prove my point! We're not a hate group, but you repeatedly attempt to paint us as such. A belief that secession is and was legal does not fill someone with hate - the only hate-filled, obsessed, erudite, boorish, sanctimonious posters here are the Claremonsters. I never claimed we were the only conservatives, you really should apply for a remedial reading comprehension program.

Instead of focusing on the real threats America is confronting, you and your rabble fights for a lost cause which was lost 150 years ago. If you truly wanted secession, you would move....out of the country.

Typical yankee, telling others what to do. I don't want to secede, I love this republic. I simply want the government our founders gave us. As for us leaving, why? So yankees like you can take our land and possessions again?

4,349 posted on 04/06/2005 5:33:05 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Giving you the benefit of a doubt the 14th Amendment enacted ex post facto Bills of Attainder (both unconstitutional)

If it's in the Constitution, how can it be unconstitutional? And it was one of you guys a couple of weeks ago claiming that any amendment to the Constitution trumped the original text.

4,376 posted on 04/06/2005 9:56:40 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Typical yankee, telling others what to do. So when are you going to start paying attention? ;)

As for us leaving, why? So yankees like you can take our land and possessions again?

That's good for starters, although I am not in the market for a mosquito infested swamp, unless you guys clean it up first, then we can build dozens of swanky high-rise hotels & condos. It worked on Miami Beach, it's 'cracker' free. What's wrong with a little civilization?

You people have no sense of humour.

4,391 posted on 04/06/2005 1:20:49 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Let us say the Confederate side had gained victory and they were in a position to dictate national policy. Do expect everyone to buy a Confederate regimé would have informed the elected leaders of the Union the following:

'All is forgiven boys, of course you can continue voting as if nothing happen over the last 4 years, plus, we really want all the pro-abolistionist congressmen and senators, especially those from New England to remain in office and naturally when your terms are finished, if you so elect, run for office again.'

More historic spins: .."each state was required to allow blacks the right of suffrage (the vote). That meant blacks could vote in the South.." Do you recall something termed 'Jim Crow?'

The only ones who should have been forced to the back of the bus should have been identified 'Confederate segregationists'.

The Southern-Confederate ringleaders of instigating civil war, resulting in over half a million dead Americans should have had their right to vote revoked for no less then 25 years, in conjunction with being permanently bared from holding public office. Once again benevolence to traitors was a massive mistake.

Are you in agreement with the return to segregation in the Deep South if that condition was the only method of a modern 'Confederate separation' from the United States?

4,398 posted on 04/06/2005 2:53:51 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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