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I haven't embarrased myself at all.

You threw out some numbers.

I said that the numbers were not the entire issue.

In fact, had the numbers been reversed, and the South's arrests were still on the trivial side, then the numbers would have been totally irrevelant.

As it is, it is clear (according to Bensal) that the Writ was used more by the North then the South and for more severely.

Yet, that is still not the entire story (I know you love simplistic arguments).

It may have been that the South did not use the Writ enough and that was a factor in losing the war.

It may have been that the North was totally justified in most of those who were arrested, hence negating the large number by the justification of their arrests.

So far you have the North arresting more people with the Writ and dealing with them more severely.

What has to also been shown is that the use of the Writ was greatly abused.

From what I have read, although there were abuses, they were not that many and most were justifiable.

Thanks for the detailed links>

Today's most frenzied 'Neo-Confeds' perpetually & deliberately fostering further divisions within this country have a lot of nerve making statements toward any writer presenting factual, historic Civil War presentations, as being somehow "notoriously biased", while they deliriously scream for 'confederate' insurgency & full scale insurrection, against their own government & the majority of the citizenry, most being totally oblivious to the existence of these raging extremists

Their treason knows no bounds, which should not come as any surprise, considering the contemptible 'heroes' they try and emulate. This disgraceful element should be throughly ashamed of themselves, as so-called 'Americans'.

In retrospect, President Lincoln should have been considerable firmer toward the prime insitgators of the pro-slavery rebellion & resulting plung into a terrible civil war.

For the President's attempted leniency & now realized mistaken forgiveness toward the enemy, they murdered him in cold blood, shot from the back! Fortunately the majority of loathsome rebel conspirators were captured and tried for high crimes.

I haven't embarrased myself at all.

You keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile the whole world can see plainly that you are so devoted to upholding your Lincoln idol that you will not even answer a simple mathematical question over whether 38,000 exceeds 4,000 for fear that it would reflect poorly on your side.

Yet, that is still not the entire story

You keep saying that, and every single time you keep claiming there is something more, but whenever pressed you've got nothing more to offer beyond vague, unsubstantiated, and unscholarly speculation. It's time to either put up or shut up, ftD. Your failure to do so only embarrasses you further.