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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob
What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?
While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.
Stars with bars:
Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.
Some things are better left dead in the past:
For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.
Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.
Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:
So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?
Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.
This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.
Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.
At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.
So what do you think of this movie?
Oh, brother, does that one hit home. Precisely why my wife and I are bailing out of Massachusetts...Heading for Nort Carolina, probably! I look around here and see elitists, and just plain mean, miserable people. Time for this guy to load the wagon and roll, instead of just griping about it. I'm headin' into the old Confederacy!
did you remember to put on your FLAMEPROOF long-drawers?
are you BLUE or GRAY??? or a NEUTRAL?
AND if you're supporting the LEFTIST (some would say COMMUNIST) "answer" IDIOTS, you'll need more than flameproof drawers, imVho.
nonetheless, WELCOME!
free dixie,sw
a simple YES or NO will suffice.
free dixie,sw
dixie need all the LIBERTY-seeking folks we can get.
come join the fight for FREEDOM.
may i point out a few prophesies?:
1. you children will be southerners,
2. their children will be SOUTHRON,will continue to fight for & WIN our LIBERTY,
3. their children will bask in FREE sunshine, in a new (and much improved) SOUTHRON REPUBLIC and
4. their children will DENY "to the death" that ANYONE in their family was EVER from the north.
free dixie,sw
That "Invading/Attacking the North Thing" didn't seem to work out so well.
Hmmm...M....M....Mohammed? It certainly would fit!
Breckinridge remained in the Senate until iirc about October, 1861. And no, he was nobody's "fire-eater", but he was the "fire-eater" candidate.
Stanton was an abolitionist; he attended seminary in Ohio in 1830-32 or thereabouts with some prominent Abolitionists and knew the Beechers personally, as a young man: the seminary he attended had been recently established by iirc again the Beechers' father. I'm a little fuzzy on that detail. Stanton left after a few years to read law, but he retained his abolitionist sympathies, which came to the fore under the Johnson Administration.
And yes, he backed Breckinridge and Lane. Strange bedfellows perhaps, but stranger were found in the Constitutional Union Party, where Edward Everett, who later stood on the dais with Lincoln at Gettysburg, ran as the vice-presidential candidate, with John Bell, on the Southern planters' antisecession ticket.
His farewell speech to the Senate can also be read profitably on these issues.
Omigosh, you don't suppose we've got ourselves a Taliban supporter on the thread?
Talk about Ultimate Troll!
Contrary to what you may have heard, you won't need to paint your car orange, put a flag on the roof, or jump over things.
Although you'll be allowed ogle the Duke girls. Discreetly.
Thanks for the response and will do.
One thing you should be aware of is that North Carolina has had so many 'Yankee invaders' already move there, that it really won't be that much of a shock, especially if you go to an area like Raleigh/Durim. You'll almost outnumber the locals.
i THINK it will go this way:
1.in about 10-15 years Le Republique Quebecois will leave Canada peacefully,
2. Los Estados Unidos de Azatlan will also peacefully (by overwhelming popularvote) leave the USA & turn her face southwards & affiliate with Mexico (in 2020 CA/AZ/NM/NV/CO will be MAJORITY Latino.) AND THEN
3. the new & GREATLY improved SOUTHRON REPUBLIC will vote with our collective feet.
imVho, the USA will then become the sort of LEFTIST,"oh, so very PC", nanny-state that "the blue-staters" seem to desire.
EVERYBODY WINS!
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
You mean the states that rebelled, don't you?
Because the Confederates had the larger task, and the broader radius of action, of creating a new Confederacy and Government de novo under conditions of greater exigency that admitted of no delay, but allowed a broader toleration for compromises of ee.g. juridical and fiscal scruple?
So the ends justified the means? You claim that you left the Union, in part because of what you saw as Constitutional violations of the Fugitive Slave acts, but Constitutional violations of your own were justified. Why am I not surprised that you would cook up some justification?
We have a lot of good people down here.
a simple YES or NO is FINE.
i ask,fyi,because damnyankees are NOTORIOUS for being ANTI-Semites & religious BIGOTS. otoh, we dixie "Jesuslanders" are WELL-KNOWN to be PRO-Israel.
free dixie,sw
that is the best reason i know of to emigrate to dixie's land.
free dixie,sw
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