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Confederate States Of America (2005)
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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob

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To: R. Scott

Oh, brother, does that one hit home. Precisely why my wife and I are bailing out of Massachusetts...Heading for Nort Carolina, probably! I look around here and see elitists, and just plain mean, miserable people. Time for this guy to load the wagon and roll, instead of just griping about it. I'm headin' into the old Confederacy!


4,121 posted on 04/03/2005 10:53:37 AM PDT by PrkChps (There really, really are conservatives in Massachusetts!)
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To: PrkChps
Forget escaping 'mean people', how about running for your lives from extreme taxation and mindless regulation?
4,122 posted on 04/03/2005 10:55:33 AM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: MrDem
also, WELCOME to the WBTS threads!!!!! (can't remember seeing your freep-name before over here.)

did you remember to put on your FLAMEPROOF long-drawers?

are you BLUE or GRAY??? or a NEUTRAL?

AND if you're supporting the LEFTIST (some would say COMMUNIST) "answer" IDIOTS, you'll need more than flameproof drawers, imVho.

nonetheless, WELCOME!

free dixie,sw

4,123 posted on 04/03/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: MrDem
i note that you did NOT answer my question.

a simple YES or NO will suffice.

free dixie,sw

4,124 posted on 04/03/2005 10:57:07 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
I started out on the 'States rights' side, then after reading Daniel Websters brilliant 'destruction' of it in the Webster-Hayne debate, went back to the North's side.
4,125 posted on 04/03/2005 10:58:52 AM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: PrkChps
welcome lad!

dixie need all the LIBERTY-seeking folks we can get.

come join the fight for FREEDOM.

may i point out a few prophesies?:

1. you children will be southerners,

2. their children will be SOUTHRON,will continue to fight for & WIN our LIBERTY,

3. their children will bask in FREE sunshine, in a new (and much improved) SOUTHRON REPUBLIC and

4. their children will DENY "to the death" that ANYONE in their family was EVER from the north.

free dixie,sw

4,126 posted on 04/03/2005 11:04:48 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
Ok, let's cut right to the chase. What's your strategy this time?

That "Invading/Attacking the North Thing" didn't seem to work out so well.


4,127 posted on 04/03/2005 11:10:57 AM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Heard you were the ~last guy to post on the pulled thread, Espinola whose first name must not be used.

Hmmm...M....M....Mohammed? It certainly would fit!

4,128 posted on 04/03/2005 11:19:39 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: capitan_refugio
That's an odd response. Are the synapses mis-firing today? Stanton, as I recall, was a Democrat. I presume he wanted to back a "winning" candidate. Breckinridge can not legitimately be numbered among the "fire-eaters."

Breckinridge remained in the Senate until iirc about October, 1861. And no, he was nobody's "fire-eater", but he was the "fire-eater" candidate.

Stanton was an abolitionist; he attended seminary in Ohio in 1830-32 or thereabouts with some prominent Abolitionists and knew the Beechers personally, as a young man: the seminary he attended had been recently established by iirc again the Beechers' father. I'm a little fuzzy on that detail. Stanton left after a few years to read law, but he retained his abolitionist sympathies, which came to the fore under the Johnson Administration.

And yes, he backed Breckinridge and Lane. Strange bedfellows perhaps, but stranger were found in the Constitutional Union Party, where Edward Everett, who later stood on the dais with Lincoln at Gettysburg, ran as the vice-presidential candidate, with John Bell, on the Southern planters' antisecession ticket.

4,129 posted on 04/03/2005 11:20:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: MrDem
Webster did a job on Nullification, but Nullification was a non-starter. Try Jefferson Davis's inaugural speech from February, 1861, as the president of the provisional Confederate government -- he was inaugurated again a few weeks later, so get the earlier one. He presents the arguments against Nullification, which revolved around the Supremacy Clause, and shows how secession was a separate issue entirely.

His farewell speech to the Senate can also be read profitably on these issues.

4,130 posted on 04/03/2005 11:25:16 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: GOPcapitalist; M. Espinola
Mohammed?

Omigosh, you don't suppose we've got ourselves a Taliban supporter on the thread?

Talk about Ultimate Troll!

4,131 posted on 04/03/2005 11:26:44 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: PrkChps
I'm headin' into the old Confederacy!

Contrary to what you may have heard, you won't need to paint your car orange, put a flag on the roof, or jump over things.

Although you'll be allowed ogle the Duke girls. Discreetly.

4,132 posted on 04/03/2005 11:29:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Thanks for the response and will do.


4,133 posted on 04/03/2005 11:34:13 AM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: PrkChps
I are bailing out of Massachusetts...Heading for Nort Carolina, probably!

One thing you should be aware of is that North Carolina has had so many 'Yankee invaders' already move there, that it really won't be that much of a shock, especially if you go to an area like Raleigh/Durim. You'll almost outnumber the locals.

4,134 posted on 04/03/2005 11:39:57 AM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: MrDem
thanks for asking.

i THINK it will go this way:

1.in about 10-15 years Le Republique Quebecois will leave Canada peacefully,

2. Los Estados Unidos de Azatlan will also peacefully (by overwhelming popularvote) leave the USA & turn her face southwards & affiliate with Mexico (in 2020 CA/AZ/NM/NV/CO will be MAJORITY Latino.) AND THEN

3. the new & GREATLY improved SOUTHRON REPUBLIC will vote with our collective feet.

imVho, the USA will then become the sort of LEFTIST,"oh, so very PC", nanny-state that "the blue-staters" seem to desire.

EVERYBODY WINS!

free dixie,sw

4,135 posted on 04/03/2005 1:01:05 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
YEP & YEP!

free dixie,sw

4,136 posted on 04/03/2005 1:02:45 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Because he was the one who insisted that federal writ must continue to run inviolate in States that had left the Union?

You mean the states that rebelled, don't you?

Because the Confederates had the larger task, and the broader radius of action, of creating a new Confederacy and Government de novo under conditions of greater exigency that admitted of no delay, but allowed a broader toleration for compromises of ee.g. juridical and fiscal scruple?

So the ends justified the means? You claim that you left the Union, in part because of what you saw as Constitutional violations of the Fugitive Slave acts, but Constitutional violations of your own were justified. Why am I not surprised that you would cook up some justification?

4,137 posted on 04/03/2005 1:05:36 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: PrkChps

We have a lot of good people down here.


4,138 posted on 04/03/2005 1:09:02 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: MrDem
you STILL did NOT answer the question i asked you in #419????

a simple YES or NO is FINE.

i ask,fyi,because damnyankees are NOTORIOUS for being ANTI-Semites & religious BIGOTS. otoh, we dixie "Jesuslanders" are WELL-KNOWN to be PRO-Israel.

free dixie,sw

4,139 posted on 04/03/2005 1:14:56 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: MrDem
how about to escape having to associate with the DAMNEDyankee BIGOTS???

that is the best reason i know of to emigrate to dixie's land.

free dixie,sw

4,140 posted on 04/03/2005 1:16:46 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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