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To: capitan_refugio; nolu chan
There were no conditional ratifications of the proposed Constitution of 1787.

Agreed, Madison indicated that the secession clauses were implicit in the document itself, and could not be considered conditions. Hamilton was forced to accept this if he wanted the Constitution.

He did.

1,941 posted on 12/01/2004 12:18:28 PM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Madison, Hamilton, and the federalists equated conditional ratification with rejection. As did the 1st Congress. No state offered a conditional ratification, nor did any state retain the right to unilateral secession. Several states made recommendations for amendments, or a bill of rights, and some states repeated revolutionary rhetoric in their ratifications, but none made ratification conditional.

"Agreed, Madison indicated that the secession clauses were implicit in the document itself, and could not be considered conditions."

Your reference here is ambiguous. Do you refer to the Constitution of 1787, the Virginia ratification documentation, or the New York ratification documentation?

1,956 posted on 12/01/2004 2:13:55 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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