[capitan_refugio]

Madison, Hamilton, and the federalists equated conditional ratification with rejection. As did the 1st Congress. No state offered a conditional ratification, nor did any state retain the right to unilateral secession. Several states made recommendations for amendments, or a bill of rights, and some states repeated revolutionary rhetoric in their ratifications, but none made ratification conditional.

"Agreed, Madison indicated that the secession clauses were implicit in the document itself, and could not be considered conditions."

Your reference here is ambiguous. Do you refer to the Constitution of 1787, the Virginia ratification documentation, or the New York ratification documentation?

[Gianni]

[Gianni]Agreed, Madison indicated that the secession clauses were implicit in the document itself, and could not be considered conditions

[Capitan] Your reference here is ambiguous. Do you refer to the Constitution of 1787, the Virginia ratification documentation, or the New York ratification documentation?

The Constitution of 1787. Madison argued that the right of the states to re-assume delegated powers was implicit in the Constitution. Hamilton was forced to agree if he wanted the new government.