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To: fortheDeclaration
That did not mean the world considered the colonies as such.

The world doesn't have to so long as nationhood is established by the act of July 4, 1776 rather than diplomatic recognition, and I'm still not sure whether you agree or disagree with that notion.

More meaningless doubletalk.

Indeed, and both you and capitan are full of it. Care to stop anytime soon?

Had the U.S. lost the war (as did the South), there would be no day of the birth of the U.S.

That's an evasion, not an answer. Did the United States attain nationhood on July 4th, 1776 or did it not? Yes or no will do. If you care to explain it further you may then append your answer with detail.

What no national day of celebration to honor the day of the birthday of the great Confederacy recognized by the Vatican and the Duchy of something?

Once again I attempt a polite and factual response to your comment, and once again you return it with needless invective and venom. Go figure.

1,848 posted on 11/30/2004 10:40:31 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist; capitan_refugio
Had the U.S. lost the war (as did the South), there would be no day of the birth of the U.S. That's an evasion, not an answer. Did the United States attain nationhood on July 4th, 1776 or did it not? Yes or no will do. If you care to explain it further you may then append your answer with detail.

Only because it succeded.

Had it failed there would be no national day of independence.

The United States did not attain nationhood on July 4th, they declared it.

It took 8 years to attain it.

What no national day of celebration to honor the day of the birthday of the great Confederacy recognized by the Vatican and the Duchy of something? Once again I attempt a polite and factual response to your comment, and once again you return it with needless invective and venom. Go figure.

Goodness, a little tongue in cheek and you get all bent out of shape!

1,852 posted on 11/30/2004 11:02:29 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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