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To: fortheDeclaration
That doesn't mean that the diplomatic recognition of St. Eustasis meant anything to the rest of the world, which is what getting recognized as a nation is all about.

Barbara Tuchman says otherwise and notes that St. Eustasius was a pivotal event of the revolution. It sent shockwaves through Europe and also provoked several British acts of retaliation against the Dutch and against the island.

Whatever the case may be, establishing nationhood is by no means a clear cut concept of diplomatic recognition. That is why I asked you what date you give for the U.S. if not July 4th and also presumably why you have yet to give a straight answer to that question.

When is the Confederacy date of independence anyway?

There is no one day as the states seceded individually on different days over a period of several months. Some of the ex CSA states do mark their Confederate History holidays on or about their dates of secession.

1,841 posted on 11/30/2004 9:55:47 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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Hey NC - heard anything about Jessica Lynch lately? I heard she had a #3stalker problem.


1,842 posted on 11/30/2004 9:57:54 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist; capitan_refugio
That doesn't mean that the diplomatic recognition of St. Eustasis meant anything to the rest of the world, which is what getting recognized as a nation is all about. Barbara Tuchman says otherwise and notes that St. Eustasius was a pivotal event of the revolution. It sent shockwaves through Europe and also provoked several British acts of retaliation against the Dutch and against the island.

Well, I am sure that England did not like anyone recognizing the colonies as a nation.

That did not mean the world considered the colonies as such.

More meaningless doubletalk.

Whatever the case may be, establishing nationhood is by no means a clear cut concept of diplomatic recognition. That is why I asked you what date you give for the U.S. if not July 4th and also presumably why you have yet to give a straight answer to that question.

Oh, I gave you a very clear answer, one that you refuse to accept due the fact it will make your case that the confederacy a nation DOA.

Had the U.S. lost the war (as did the South), there would be no day of the birth of the U.S.

Since we won (unlike the South), our birthday is recognized by other nations as the 4th of July.

There is no one day as the states seceded individually on different days over a period of several months. Some of the ex CSA states do mark their Confederate History holidays on or about their dates of secession.

What no national day of celebration to honor the day of the birthday of the great Confederacy recognized by the Vatican and the Duchy of something?

LOL!

1,845 posted on 11/30/2004 10:09:58 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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