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To: GOPcapitalist
"As I noted previously, if the tiny island of St. Eustasius was good enough for the USA, Saxe Coburg Gotha more than sufficed for the CSA."

A cannon salute from some Dutch dependency did not make the United States a nation. It's a quaint story, however.

"The issue remains, however, about your attempt to belittle Prince Albert's connection to Saxe Coburg Gotha as does your chronic and habitual penchant for dishonesty as exhibited most recently through it."

What is troubling is your chronic and habitual penchant for fantasy. Saxe-Coburg Gotha was an insignificant duchy. Albert, as a second son under the rule of primogeniture, got while the getting was good.

"The original CSA diplomat to arrive there was Dudley Mann"

A review of Mann's rosy letters suggest that he was as deluded as you are. Case in point; an excerpt from his letter No. 68, dated November 11, 1863:

"Of course I can form no conjecture when the letter of his holiness to the President will be ready for delivery. Weeks, perhaps months, may elapse first. With my explanations to him upon the subject of slavery, I indulge the hope that he will not allude, hurtfully to us, to the subject. As soon as I receive it I will endeavor to prevail with him to have the correspondence published in the official Journal here, or to give me permission to bring it out in the Paris Moniteur. Its information would be powerful upon all the Catholic governments in both hemispheres, and I would return to Brussels and make an appeal to King Leopold to exert himself with Great Britain, Prussia, etc., in our behalf. Thus I am exceedingly hopeful that before spring our independence will be generally acknowledged. Russia alone will most probably stand aloof until we are recognized by the North, as she has now, at least ostensibly, identified her fortunes with that distracted and demon-like division of the old Union."

This guy was a crack up.

1,628 posted on 11/27/2004 10:49:03 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
A cannon salute from some Dutch dependency did not make the United States a nation.

I take it then that you date American nationhood to sometime after November 1776 and thus necessarily after July 4, 1776 as well.

It's a quaint story, however.

It's a very interesting and significant story to our nation's history. It set the stage for St. Eustasius providing a pivotal role as a channeling point for transfering European armaments to Washington's army. It is also the subject of Barbara Tuchman's book "The First Salute."

What is troubling is your chronic and habitual penchant for fantasy. Saxe-Coburg Gotha was an insignificant duchy.

It is no fantasy to note the very real fact of diplomatic recognition, capitan. You simply don't like that fact, thus you expend your energies belittling Saxe Coburg Gotha and its most famous offspring.

A review of Mann's rosy letters suggest that he was as deluded as you are.

Once again you supplant an effort to discuss material facts of history with unnecessary personal invective and venom. You and your apprentice ftD have much in common in that respect.

1,632 posted on 11/27/2004 11:22:26 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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