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To: GOPcapitalist; nolu chan; lentulusgracchus
"In this case you attempt to belittle Saxe Coburg and Gotha's nationhood by falsely and unnecessarily diminishing its connection to its most famous offspring."

I suppose when a papal state and an insignificant duchy are all you've got, they take on a great deal of importance! LOL

You do recall that the Germans didn't want the English rulers to have any claim on the duchy?

"If St. Eustasius is good enough for the United States in 1776, Saxe Coburg Gotha was good enough for the Confederate States in 1862."

By the way, who was the Ambassador sent by SCG to the CSA?

1,625 posted on 11/27/2004 9:22:07 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
I suppose when a papal state and an insignificant duchy are all you've got, they take on a great deal of importance!

As I noted previously, if the tiny island of St. Eustasius was good enough for the USA, Saxe Coburg Gotha more than sufficed for the CSA.

The issue remains, however, about your attempt to belittle Prince Albert's connection to Saxe Coburg Gotha as does your chronic and habitual penchant for dishonesty as exhibited most recently through it.

By the way, who was the Ambassador sent by SCG to the CSA?

Not having a copy of the diplomatic documents they exchanged, which would presumably tell that information, I would direct you to the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond where IIRC they reside. I can tell you some of the names in the case of the Vatican.

The original CSA diplomat to arrive there was Dudley Mann - one of the confederate negotiators in Europe. He was received by Cardinal Antonelli, the vatican Secretary of State, and given both diplomatic protection and an audience with Pius. The arrangement of subsequent diplomacy is a bit unusual as it involves a figure who was given papers permitting him to conduct diplomacy by Jefferson Davis at a time he was simultaneously a Bishop within the Catholic Church itself - Bishop Lynch of Charleston. He travelled to Rome to fulfill these duties in 1864 and remained until after the war. Unfortunately his papers do not seem to be readily accessible and, unlike Mann's, are not in the official records series. If I were to speculate on their location I would guess that they reside in the Vatican itself, seeing as Lynch did not return to the United States until well after the war.

1,627 posted on 11/27/2004 9:55:31 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: capitan_refugio; GOPcapitalist
"If St. Eustasius is good enough for the United States in 1776,

And I said that it wasn't good enough.

Neither could be considered a recoginized nation for the first three years of existance.

1,831 posted on 11/30/2004 9:22:08 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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