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Commentary: Truth blown away in sugarcoated 'Gone With the Wind'
sacbee ^ | 11-13-04

Posted on 11/13/2004 11:12:00 AM PST by LouAvul

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Based on Margaret Mitchell's hugely popular novel, producer David O. Selznick's four-hour epic tale of the American South during slavery, the Civil War and Reconstruction is the all-time box-office champion.

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Considering its financial success and critical acclaim, "Gone With the Wind" may be the most famous movie ever made.

It's also a lie.

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Along with D.W. Griffith's technically innovative but ethically reprehensible "The Birth of a Nation" (from 1915), which portrayed the Ku Klux Klan as heroic, "GWTW" presents a picture of the pre-Civil War South in which slavery is a noble institution and slaves are content with their status.

Furthermore, it puts forth an image of Reconstruction as one in which freed blacks, the occupying Union army, Southern "scalawags" and Northern "carpetbaggers" inflict great harm on the defeated South, which is saved - along with the honor of Southern womanhood - by the bravery of KKK-like vigilantes.

To his credit, Selznick did eliminate some of the most egregious racism in Mitchell's novel, including the frequent use of the N-word, and downplayed the role of the KKK, compared with "Birth of a Nation," by showing no hooded vigilantes.

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One can say that "GWTW" was a product of its times, when racial segregation was still the law of the South and a common practice in the North, and shouldn't be judged by today's political and moral standards. And it's true that most historical scholarship prior to the 1950s, like the movie, also portrayed slavery as a relatively benign institution and Reconstruction as unequivocally evil.

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Or as William L. Patterson of the Chicago Defender succinctly wrote: "('Gone With the Wind' is a) weapon of terror against black America."

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To: DixieDevilDog

It's much better than you say. The cast is terrific. Especially Leslie Howard. and Olivia DeHaviland makes Melanie come to life, in the book we are just told she is good, DeHaviland acts her good, too good to be true in the book, as seen through Scarlett's eyes, but just really a wonderful person in the movie.

And yes, I am a chick!


83 posted on 11/13/2004 7:31:42 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: DixieDevilDog
Never confuse the artist with his art.

Never pretend otherwise.

85 posted on 11/13/2004 8:09:21 PM PST by sevry
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To: groanup
You weren't the first to think of this scenario :-) Lion's Blood Ain't "alternate history" fun?
87 posted on 11/13/2004 8:23:33 PM PST by coydog (My bathroom djinn can beat up your bathroom djinn!)
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To: coydog
"Ain't "alternate history" fun?"

In a world where slavery was the norm it isn't inconceivable that blacks would have enslaved whites if they had the power. Hell every nation practiced slavery at the time. It was good ol' boy dead white males that ended the practice in Europe and America.

88 posted on 11/13/2004 8:27:55 PM PST by groanup (Gay-bashing? No, it was Kerry-bashing, 59 million strong.)
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To: DixieDevilDog
I saw it the first time when I was 12 years old in 1959

Perhaps you ought to see it as an adult.

89 posted on 11/13/2004 8:30:12 PM PST by eddie willers (`)
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To: Veto!
I don't think we can ever justify slavery by saying, well, they lived just as well as the miners, etc.....

as to the author's assertion about the movie, he missed the most important aspect.....that in reality few white Southerners had slaves period....most people were poor and couldn't afford them so in that respect GWTW was truly just pulp....

90 posted on 11/13/2004 8:33:35 PM PST by cherry
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To: tuffydoodle
wonder if "Star Wars" played fast and loose with the truth, too?!

It wasn't THAT long ago, or THAT far away...

91 posted on 11/13/2004 8:36:55 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Democrat credo: If we win, we win: if we lose it is theft!)
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To: groanup

I don't dispute that at all. Sometimes I suspect all the attitude white boys get is thinly masked resentment that you turned things 'upside-down' in the last 300 years and they're projecting it on you.


92 posted on 11/13/2004 8:58:45 PM PST by coydog (My bathroom djinn can beat up your bathroom djinn!)
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To: All
As a born and bred Southron during the post-WBTS era, Margaret Mitchell knew exactly what she was writing, in my opinion.

I believe she did mean to evoke the image of a (mostly) benevolent aristocracy overseeing a culture that she -- and many others -- saw as not utterly demeaning in every aspect. That is, she and her surrogate Scarlett, realized the culture was caught in a supply and demand circumstance, no matter how uncomfortable it might be.

Those who truly study Southern history, both Antebellum and Reconstruction, know that freedom was eventually the only humane course to pursue. But the cold turkey method foisted on owners and slaves with no transition to independence for either, was brutal for both.

I believe Mitchell wanted that story told and she succeeded brilliantly, through enduring characters against the backdrop of a bloody four-year war that found no real winners.

93 posted on 11/13/2004 9:01:13 PM PST by varina davis
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To: varina davis
"I believe she did mean to evoke the image of a (mostly) benevolent aristocracy overseeing a culture that she -- and many others -- saw as not utterly demeaning in every aspect."

. My grandmother knew Margaret Mitchell. My grandmother also had a working black maid. My grandfather knew a black man that he took with him hunting and fishing for years in the 1940's to 1960's. My grandfather told my mother that that black man was his best friend. Even so, the black man addressed my grandfather as "mister".

One day my uncle and grandfather were out in the car and came upon the black man on the side of the road. He was dressed in a coat and tie. My uncle and grandfather stopped to see what was wrong. It turned out that he had a flat tire and had donned a coat and tie in the inevitable event that the flat tire would land him in jail. He didn't want to go to jail undressed.

94 posted on 11/13/2004 9:23:31 PM PST by groanup (Gay-bashing? No, it was Kerry-bashing, 59 million strong.)
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To: LouAvul

The movie was more a chick-flick about a strong-willed (bitchy) woman who has enouth strentgh of character not to just roll over and die. The men are really two-dimensional characters with no real development. So what? There's not much commentary about slavery either way.


95 posted on 11/13/2004 9:32:36 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: goldfinch

I rather like the original better. How can a computer commit a Freudian slip? The Id in the Machine?


96 posted on 11/13/2004 9:38:28 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: FreedomCalls
Link to 1860 vote totals by state.
97 posted on 11/13/2004 9:44:41 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: LouAvul

What's this about -- the DVD coming out or slow news day? This is still one of my all time favorite movies. Watch it at least once a year and still cry.


98 posted on 11/13/2004 9:55:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

1939 was still probably the best year for movies.


99 posted on 11/13/2004 10:02:13 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: FreedomCalls; DBeers

31 - "Re: "Roots". That piece of fiction (which claimed to be fact) has also done a lot of damage to people's historical understanding of slavery. In "Roots" a raiding party comes ashore and kidnaps Kunta Kinte from a peaceful life. In reality that would never happen. In reality a slave ship would put ashore and negotiate to purchase slave cargo from the local king."

Almost correct, but the slaves would have been purchased from the local, coastal, Muslim slave trader.


100 posted on 11/14/2004 12:18:08 AM PST by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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