Was Abe Lincoln Gay? (The blockbuster book that will change America’s history)

LA Weekly ^ | OCT. 29 - NOV. 4, 2004 | Doug Ireland

[Pokey78]

If the loving heart of the Great Emancipator found its natural amorous passions overwhelmingly directed toward those of his own sex, it would certainly be a stunning rebuke to the Republican Party’s scapegoating of same-sex love for electoral purposes. And a forthcoming book by the late Dr. C.A. Tripp — The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, to be published in the new year by Free Press — makes a powerful case that Lincoln was a lover of men.

Tripp, who worked closely in the 1940s and 1950s with the groundbreaking sexologist Alfred Kinsey, was a clinical psychologist, university professor and author of the 1975 best-seller The Homosexual Matrix, which helped transcend outdated Freudian clichés and establish that a same-sex affectional and sexual orientation is a normal and natural occurrence.

In his book on Lincoln, Tripp draws on his years with Kinsey, who, he wrote, "confronted the problem of classifying mixed sex patterns by devising his 0-to-6 scale, which allows the ranking of any homosexual component in a person’s life from none to entirely homosexual. By this measure Lincoln qualifies as a classical 5 — predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual."

Tripp also found, based on multiple historical accounts, that Lincoln attained puberty unusually early, by the age of 9 or 10 — early sexualization being a prime Kinsey indicator for same-sex proclivities. Even Lincoln’s stepmother admitted in a post-assassination interview that young Abe "never took much interest in the girls." And Tripp buttresses his findings that Lincoln was a same-sex lover with important new historical contributions.

[wardaddy]

Kinsey was a pervert.

Liam Neeson is stupid. He applauds Kinsey in that new drek of a film.

[valkyrieanne]

Maybe this Dr. Tripp was one of those who held children down and masturbated them for Kinsey's "study."

[bilhosty]

I have a book sex life of the Presidents (This is a book that tells everything), the author says these stories of Lincoln being gay are rubbish. I can't find the book now so I can't give the reasons why he said that, but this author would not have held back anything and he did have a ton of historical knowledge on the subject.

[elizabetty]

Alfred Kinsey was a known child molester. Don't trust anything that has to do with the Kinsey institute of moral degradation.

[Flux Capacitor]

----If the loving heart of the Great Emancipator found its natural amorous passions overwhelmingly directed toward those of his own sex, it would certainly be a stunning rebuke to the Republican Party’s scapegoating of same-sex love for electoral purposes.----

----Tripp completed The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln just two weeks before his own death. It is a tragedy that tawdry squabbles between the aging and irascible executor of Tripp’s estate and his publisher prevented the book’s publication before this year’s elections (it is now due out, after yet another postponement, in March). That is why, when — after assiduous and clandestine effort — we managed to obtain a copy of the book’s uncorrected proofs, we decided to break with book-chat conventions and, without authorization, make some of Tripp’s findings public here before November 2.----

----In a year in which those who claim Lincoln as their political progenitor are trying to introduce a ban on recognition of same-sex love into the Constitution that Lincoln loved so much and defended so well (and also into the constitutions of 11 states through referendums), it seemed to me that the voters had an overriding right to know how, in doing so, the Republicans and their Christian-right allies are wounding the martyr-president squarely in his heart of hearts.----

If these three passages alone don't discredit the Lincoln-Was-Gay effort, I don't know what does (certainly, nothing else in the story is evidence of homosexuality). Even if they really do believe Lincoln was gay, how does this amount to anything more than exploiting him for electoral purposes -- exactly what they charge the GOP with?

And exactly what does the LA Weekly think of their own candidate's scapegoating of Mary Cheney for electoral purposes?

Or of Max Baucus' scapegoating of his Republican opponent in 2002 for electoral purposes?

Beneath contempt. The gay lobby cares nothing about "gay rights" for any homosexuals who fall outside its own partisan leftist cabal. They eat their own (if you'll pardon the expression) and don't think twice about justifying a little gay-baiting for the cause.

And if it really gave a damn about getting to what it thinks to be the truth about The Great Emancipator, it would be more concerned about finding real, provable evidence of homosexuality, rather than throwing out every unsubstantied or circumstantial charge it can find just to meet a November 2nd deadline.

-Dan

[bethelgrad]

I don't know why, but that pic makes me smile everytime I see it!

[EdReform]

. I'd like to see this thread shut down.<.i>

No, let's leave the thread posted. It documents the depravity in the homosexual community and the fact that, like John Kerry and the DNC, they will repeatly lie about anything to further their agenda.

For additional documentation, see Scripter's Index of Links:

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)

[valkyrieanne]

Given all we know about Mary Lincoln I would it hard to fault him were it true.

Yes, Mary Todd Lincoln was probably crazy as a bedbug, and a spiritualist to boot who was obsessed with contacting the ghost of their beloved dead son.

But not everyone in the 19th century with a bad marriage, and who slept with the opposite sex was homosexual. One could argue that same-sex friendships could be as deep as they were in that era *because* there was such a powerful social force against homosexuality.

Friends *could* be close and have innocent friendships because no one was going to point the finger at them and call them "gay." One of the most disgusting aspects of the gay-rights movement has been to taint decent same-sex friendships.

[TurtleStink]

This is about as true as the fact that Thomas Jefferson had children with Sally Jennings. It is now certifiable fact that if there is any Jefferson blood in the Jennings children and I say IF it came from Jefferson's mentally damaged younger brother.

What a crock. Abraham Lincoln was a providential Man. God put him there and God has put George W. Bush where he is. God is sorrowed by the sin and not the sinner and he does not take the United States lightly. Believe God over this crapped head professor and writer of the inside of his dirty brain.

[Flux Capacitor]

----Lincoln did sleep in a mans bed in Illinois.----

Not unusual for the time.

-Dan

[mhking]

And a forthcoming book by the late Dr. C.A. Tripp — The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, to be published in the new year by Free Press — makes a powerful case that Lincoln was a lover of men.

This is a waste of good bandwidth.

[Sen Jack S. Fogbound]

I am fed up with all the so-called "authors" who write about our past famous heros sex-escapades. They know nothing about their personal lifes and all of it are just speculations.

They need to be locked up in their rooms so they can play with themselves instead of ruining other lives with such useless speculations!

[EdReform]

Ping

[raybbr]

Maybe this Dr. Tripp was one of those who held children down and masturbated them for Kinsey's "study."

Not kids but dogs

[valkyrieanne]

Lincoln did sleep in a mans bed in Illinois.

It was very common in those days for people of the same sex to sleep together. If you were travelling, you paid way extra for your own bed; it wasn't uncommon for total strangers to sleep together in inns and roadhouses. When rooming together, it was not unusual for men to share a bed as Lincoln did in his twenties (when he was very poor, as I recall.)

Strangely, husbands and wives did often have separate beds, and if they were more prosperous, separate bedrooms as well. Given the far greater birthrates then than now, I don't think it put much of a crimp in their married lives.

[stainlessbanner]

Cuss-words might be considered intellectual at DU, but not in this forum.

[Dog]

This is sick....

[raybbr]

See post 75 and link in 76.

Clearly an attempt to rewrite history to the needs of homos.

[valkyrieanne]

My bad: But not everyone in the 19th century with a bad marriage, and who slept with the opposite sex was homosexual.

That should read, "slept with the same sex." Sheeesh.