Posted on 10/11/2004 2:06:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
I preface this short vanity by saying I am pro-life, anti-abortion, anti-stem cell playing-God...
I have a friend who worked on Christopher Reeve's latest TV movie which Reeve just finished directing.
Movie sets are generally bedlam, filled with chaos, complaints, back-stabbing and petty irritations.
My friend said this production was different -- a life-changing experience for everyone involved with it.
The direction on the set was altered to accommodate Reeve's limitations which, according to my friend, were unimaginable. Reeve had to show up before dawn hours ahead of schedule in order to prepare for the rigors of production. He was constantly hooked up to machines. He could move nothing but his facial muscles. He was never alone, yet he was all alone.
Throughout the weeks, Reeve was steady, focused and serene. No one argued about craft services or late entrances or slow lighting. Everyone pitched in and did more than their share -- willingly, gratefully, aware of the tremendous effort Reeve was making and of his constant, unfathomable suffering.
My friend is not a particularly religious man, but he said he felt blessed and humbled to witness Christopher Reeve's profound courage and grace.
His pain is ended; he's strong and whole now. May God comfort those who loved him.
I really don't think you do. But we'll go on.
So it would be in poor taste to criticize the ideas and activism of Karl Marx and Jim Jones as well, because they are dead and therefore beyond criticism.
I never said that. You did. And comparing Mr. Reeve to Karl Marx or Jim Jones is despicable.
Sorry, but Mr. Reeve is not beyond criticism just because he failed to outlive his evil agenda.
A clarification for the slow among us - Mr. Reeve is beyond criticism because he's no longer around to hear it or care about the rantings of single-issue thumpers with an agenda.
Honestly, I don't know what his political views were before his accident. It would be difficult for me to say unless I knew.
Where you came to that conclusion, I do not know.
It's actually quite apt.
In fact, Mr. Reeve was willing to promote a legislative agenda that would have ended in the deaths of far more people than Jim Jones ever engineered - and potentially more than even Karl Marx.
A clarification for the slow among us - Mr. Reeve is beyond criticism because he's no longer around to hear it or care about the rantings of single-issue thumpers with an agenda.
So now we're playing semantics.
Just because someone cannot hear criticism does not mean that they are beyond criticism.
It's quite clear that my orginal post was making the point that just because someone is unfortunate or has died does not mean that their behavior is beyond criticism.
You facilely responded "yes it does", but you were incorrect.
Anyone want to guess how long it will be until this thread is pulled? Come on people, we are Christians here right? That is what I thought anyway. Please just pray for the family. If Kerry uses this, he is just showing his true colors. Lets leave politics out of this.
That's an almost Clintonesque re-definition the phrase "beyond criticism." Sorry, but you can't have words and phrases mean just what YOU want them to mean.
Speaking of words, meanings, and truth, the French "philosopher" Jacques Derrida died just a couple of days ago. So is he now "beyond criticism" too?
No one here is ranting - they've simply pointed out that Mr. Reeves consistently endorsed an evil agenda.
Certain "single" issues are relatively important. The sanctity of human life may be a "single" issue, but it's on a slightly different level from say, medical marijuana.
As far as "agenda" is concerned, your use of this leftist buzzword is amusing. Mr. Reeve had an agenda.
it was quite simply: get me healthy again - I don't care what abominations have to be committed so I can ride my thororughbreds again.
I have an agenda: Don't kill people just so other people can feel better.
Everyone has an agenda, including yourself. My agenda is just and Mr. Reeve's was evil.
Does anyone know what the average life span is for someone after they suffer an injury as devastating as Christopher's? He lived nearly ten years after his accident and that is with the best medical care money can buy.
Hardly. But do go on.
In fact, Mr. Reeve was willing to promote a legislative agenda that would have ended in the deaths of far more people than Jim Jones ever engineered - and potentially more than even Karl Marx.
So essentially, you're calling George W. Bush a mass murderer. For he has said publicly that he condones abortion in the case of "rape, incest or health of the mother".
Just because someone cannot hear criticism does not mean that they are beyond criticism.
I never said that either. You just love to put words in other people's mouths, don't you?
You facilely responded "yes it does", but you were incorrect.
I was quite correct. You on the other hand are quite the hypocrite unless you drop your support for President Bush. Do it now.
Really? I hadn't heard.
It must have occasioned a national day of mourning in la belle France.
It was, nearly. Jacques Chirac himself announced it.
May God comfort Christopher Reeve's family and all who loved him.
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I said the same thing, that the Rats would shamefully exploit Reeves death for political purposes, silently thanking the God that they don't believe in, for the timing of Reeves passing. Too bad.
Yawn.
The President's position is that if abortion can be reduced to only cases of rape, incest and the mother's life, it would be a huge step forward.
I agree with him - it would reduce the murder of the unborn in this country from more than a million per year to less than a thousand, which would be signal progress. That is doubtless the best place to begin.
There is a difference, of course, between focusing on eliminating one kind of evil and campaigning to endorse and enable it.
Do it now.
LOL! Yes, master!
Yes, yet another reason while these bible thumping bigots are despised by many. Flame away you single issue creeps.
"Clintonesque" - ROFL. Did Mommy help you with that big word?
Sorry, but YOU can't deny the fact that the man is dead and that he no longer hears nor cares about what you have to say.
Speaking of words, meanings, and truth, the French "philosopher" Jacques Derrida died just a couple of days ago. So is he now "beyond criticism" too?
Yeah, pretty much. Because he's dead too.
Just to clarify, I personally care little about the bray of the single-issue jackass. And right now, I guarantee you that Mr. Reeve cares even less than I do if that is possible. So keep it up - maybe somebody will bring some sweet feed out to the paddock.
The wisdom of the moderators in pulling yesterday's Reeve threads is obvious. I predict this one will quickly go the same way.
Did you read #83?
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