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To: Stubborn

I would add the following to the list:

1. "subsists" instead of "is"
2. inter-religious dialogue
3. praying "with" pagans, but not "together" or "at the same time" (false idol worship)
4. "participating" at Mass instead of
"assisting" at the Holy Sacrifice
5. "elements of truth"
6. "salvific elements" of other religions
7. "imperfectly united to the Catholic Church" instead of heretics
8. Jews and Muslims worship the "same one, true God as Christians."
9. Eucharistic ministers
10. Anything called "ministry" that is run by laymen. The correct term is "apostolate."
11. "separatred brethren" instead of heretics
12. "breathing with both lungs" meaning the Roman Church and the Eastern Orthodox, but NOT meaning the SSPX for some reason.
13. Emphasize the "glass is half full" instead of the "glass half empty."
14. Lots and lots of terms and sentences used in Gaudium et Spes
15. "subsists" instead of "is."


14 posted on 08/18/2004 9:23:01 AM PDT by Mershon
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To: Mershon
And the word process also.
16 posted on 08/18/2004 9:33:35 AM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Mershon; All
Great additions!

Amazingly, another word that modernists don't use is "novus ordo". If you remind them that they are in the novus ordo, they will often times take that as some type of insult then say "But novus ordo implies not catholic". - to which I am always tempted to say - "Bingo".

18 posted on 08/18/2004 9:47:50 AM PDT by Stubborn (It is the Mass that matters)
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To: Mershon

> 1. "subsists" instead of "is"
> 15. "subsists" instead of "is."

Thay depends what you mean by "subsists." *smirk*


27 posted on 08/18/2004 10:26:17 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Mershon; dangus
"subsists" instead of "is"
And the strict reason why the word essence is employed is because it is always. But this is identical with substance, because a thing which is, necessarily subsists in itself, and whatever thus subsists possesses unquestionably a permanent genus, nature or substance. (St. Hilary of Poitiers, On the Councils, 12)

"separatred brethren" instead of heretics

But, cut off from the infallible teaching authority of the Church, not a few separated brethren have gone so far as to overthrow the central dogma of Christianity, the Divinity of the Savior, and have hastened thereby the progress of spiritual decay. (Pius XII, Summi Pontificatus, 29)

48 posted on 08/18/2004 12:51:10 PM PDT by gbcdoj
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To: Mershon
Have to ask, while I believe that the Muslims do not worship the same God as Christianity, I certainly believe the Jews do, afterall, Jesus was one. Does the Catholic Church think they do not? Thanks.
151 posted on 08/18/2004 9:39:50 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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