Posted on 07/24/2004 8:11:31 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
Exactly! Well said and worth repeating.
The young age of your sons well explains the immaturity of their opinion. What's your excuse?
Did somebody call Luis a DU troll?
Q.E.D.
Did you notice that the graphic in question is still up on the thread?
Yep. But my son did make a mistake. I am afraid he overestimated the age group of these guys. I will correct him tonight.
Two individuals decided to take it upon themselves to destroy the thread, and carry out a vendetta; make no mistake, this was not about the graphic, as you can see, it's clearly displayed on the thread even now.
They worked to get this thread moved to the backroom to satisfy their egos, and acted in a crass, classless manner, while bitching about the lack of class of a graphic that was posted many, many times in FR on many threads in the aftermath of the attacks on 9/11, and generally praised as patriotic and motivating.
Bob J. - Re your #243:
Without reviewing the previous diatribe (which I'd really rather not do, actually; the first time through was painful enough!) I get the impression that Contributor Luis has been accused of doing and being all manner of diabolical things, from a pornographer to a "liar", and although I'm not all that well versed in espaniol, I'm not too sure but what someone here seems to think that he's an illeagal immigrant, too.
Really? Oh my!
As to his "being a DU Troll", it may have been suggested - but certainly not by this humble correspondant.
Just on the basis of my limited reading of Mr. Gonzalez, I don't see anything that even approaches a justification of the level of abuse and contempt to which he is being subjected here, much less any cogent reason to believe that any of these vitriolic allegations are in the least wise legitimate.
Since my tenure here with FR I have come to expect and enjoy a modicum of spirited controversy; Lord knows I'm not above taking my canoe paddle and occasionally stirring things up a bit (review my postings if you like)- but I have also come to expect a little civility among FReepers as well.
Pity; but "civility" is a precious social commodity which I find distictly lacking in the better part of this conversation.
In my experience, when such "flame wars" break out on the FR, more often than not it turns out that elements from the "other side" have crept in under cover of darkness (and anonymity) with the covert tactical intent of sowing hatred and discord among us.
Shucks; they do essentially the same thing to our Schools, Churches, Synagogs, and any other institution or organization that they can't readily control, don't they?
How many of these entities have you seen them eventually take over and/or destroy in your Community?
Are they not applying essentially the same tactic in thier quest to dominate American politics and society?
If you have any doubts about that, then check it out and get back to me, won't you?
Now I don't know about ye all, but I for one do NOT want to see that happening to our beloved FR, much less our Nation!
And if Members of this community have been reduced to falling on one another's throats without the dastardly and malicious intervention of our antangonists, then I humbly submit to you that we have developed some serious internal "issues" that we need to examine and deal with...
As rational adults.
Before it's too late, eh?
"Peace" is not the exclusive domain of the left, is it?
And as Conservatives, are WE not the ones who are supposed to be ordering our behaviour on the basis of intellectual excersize rather than emotional impusle?
Isn't that what El RUSHBO keeps telling us?
Let's THINK about it now... Please!
For Freedom's sake...
For Christ's sake.
Amen?
Beeber self-stunification can cause blindness to reality. Witness the critics on this thread.
I read the thread and it looked like there was plenty of shots back and forth...nothing new on FR and Luis can take care of himself. If someone had accused Luis of being a DU troll, I would have pointed that out as well.
Very well then, Mate; backing off per your request.
Have a nice day! :)
You too. I think we are basically on the same side ;-}. There's far too much "eating your own" that goes.
Good show!
Let me make something perfectly clear I DON'T CARE WHO POSTED THE GRAPHIC, IF IT WERE NY BEST FRIEND, THE POPE, THE LOVE OF MY MY LIFE OR A PERFECT STRANGER, I would have objected to the graphic. And if the response to the criticism was greeted by a threat to out me by using my real name, which was your response in this case Luis, I would have refused to back down which was MY response in this case. Furthermore, you added fuel to the fire with your baiting and inflammatory remarks, both directly to the posters on my side, and to posters on your side, behind our backs.
If you were really serious about raising funds for Mr. Pasquales, you would have been wiser to exclude the graphic, which you knew many would find offensive. Your response would have been doubled or tripled. You have only yourself and your poor lack of judgement to blame.
I have never been vindictive to anyone in my life. If anyone would cause such damage to me, my life or the lives of my loved ones, even then I probably would not have a vandetta against them. In any case, there are far, far better ways to even such a score.
Modshopping? My complaints were made directly to you. I said not a word to the mods about your graphic. Your post was moved to the Smokey Backroom when vigilante in a very silly post, accused tallhappy of being in love with you (probably because he read the post where you accuse tallhappy of being a woman.) That then generated a discussion about sexual orientation necessitating that your thread be moved to the Smokey Backroom. I had no part in THAT discussion. Furthermore, you posted your thread when you knew a mod who wouldn't pull it was on duty. It was you who engaged in the mod shopping.
Because you aren't stupid enough to so miscalculate the response you were going to receive to your graphic, I believe you posted it deliberately to entrap those who would publicly disagree, tarnish them, cry the victim and silence their disagreement on this issue for the forseeable future. I have seen you in action. Such a motive is not beyond you. In fact, that's exactly what you did.
Do not post that graphic again.
With all due respect, on post #47, tallhappy was told to "knock it off" by you, it didn't slow him down one bit.
I imagine that if I ignore your warning, just likle tallhappy did, you will suspend me, correct?
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