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Marijuana Prohibition: Who Does It Protect?
Free Times ^ | July 22, 2004 | Henry Koch

Posted on 07/23/2004 7:55:29 AM PDT by cryptical

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To: rhombus
Here's my answer: Marijuana laws protect a very lucrative business for lawyers, and cops.

And drug dealers.
101 posted on 07/23/2004 11:15:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Modernman

You are referring to laws as government telling people what to do.
I look at the reasons for some laws as being there because some thick headed idiots don't know the boundaries of safe behavior or reasonable use and the boundaries are spelled out in laws.
This isn't the 1700s and the closer we live next to others, the more likely there will be laws you have to live by.


102 posted on 07/23/2004 11:16:35 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Protagoras
I have never used an illegal drug. I have no drug lust.

Do yourself a favor and don't admit to your own self-righeous past, it tends to lead to people disregarding anything you have to say on the drug or conservative issues.

103 posted on 07/23/2004 11:17:39 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Protagoras

So you are an anarchist perhaps wanting the furthest extent of freedom? Sure sounds like it!


104 posted on 07/23/2004 11:18:00 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Durus

Branded Radical placemarker.

;^)


105 posted on 07/23/2004 11:19:09 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: R. Scott
And drug dealers.

Do you propose that we also legalized cocaine?

106 posted on 07/23/2004 11:19:19 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cryptical

"Marijuana Prohibition: Who Does It Protect?"

NORMAL people who don't need drugs to cloud reality. People on drugs hide from reality. There's a reason why Home Depot and other employers do NOT want druggies working for them. Drugs alter their mind and they can be dangerous to NORMAL people in society.


107 posted on 07/23/2004 11:20:19 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bayourod

Only a dope would want to do drugs.


108 posted on 07/23/2004 11:20:56 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Durus

Seems more a drug lust trying to use the constitution as a shield.
I would imagine that pedophiles, bigamists and other similar oddities could use your arguments in their slants on ways to force their way into the mainstream society as well.


109 posted on 07/23/2004 11:22:20 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Modernman
"The solution would be to allow the states to experiment with varying degrees of legalization and criminalization."

Hey, that's exactly the way we handle alcohol -- each state decides. I propose that we vote on an amendment which contains similar wording to that of the 21st amendment (which gave the alcohol legalization power back to the states). Agree?

I mean, if we don't, we could end up with California being the only state to legalize pot which may cause problems in the surrounding states -- it's only fair to give those states a say-so in the legalization process.

But are you saying that the legalization decision for all drugs, including prescription drugs, be turned over to the states or just marijuana?

110 posted on 07/23/2004 11:22:50 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: A CA Guy
Sounds wrong.

BTW, save the namecalling for someone else. I didn't call you any names.

111 posted on 07/23/2004 11:23:32 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Protagoras
I retract nothing. You admitted using illegal drugs.

Are you a federal jackboot or just an uptight AR cop wannabe?

112 posted on 07/23/2004 11:24:07 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: nmh

So, I can safely conclude that you essentially agree with the propaganda of the almighty State and despise the Creation of God, at their command.

That's a very odd position for someone with your tagline.


113 posted on 07/23/2004 11:24:53 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: cinFLA
Do you propose that we also legalized cocaine?

I propose you go to prison for your crimes, just like you advocate for others who have committed the same crimes as you. That is the first thing I propose. In lieu of that, I propose you stay off these threads because you have no standing or credibility on the issue.

114 posted on 07/23/2004 11:27:58 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: headsonpikes
"So, I can safely conclude that you essentially agree with the propaganda of the almighty State and despise the Creation of God, at their command."

I think you're a tad confused. For once the government is right in it's studies on the harm of marijuana and WHY employers don't employ druggies. As for this nonsense about the "creation of God" ... ahem, are you on something illegal now? God made arsenic too yet He doesn't expect us to ingest it.

"That's a very odd position for someone with your tagline."

God made poisonous mushrooms but certainly doesn't expect you to use them in a stew and invite your neighbors over to partake. Honestly get to know Him ... and you won't be making such silly statements.
115 posted on 07/23/2004 11:29:02 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: robertpaulsen
Hey, that's exactly the way we handle alcohol -- each state decides. I propose that we vote on an amendment which contains similar wording to that of the 21st amendment (which gave the alcohol legalization power back to the states). Agree?

Yes. The only provision is that states would have to allow the shipping of pot grown in, say, NY to, say, CA through Indiana, even if Indiana bans the sale of pot.

But are you saying that the legalization decision for all drugs, including prescription drugs, be turned over to the states or just marijuana?

Interesting question, actually. I see drugs prescribed for a medicinal purpose to be in a different category than recreational drugs, so I would leave regulation of prescription drugs to the FDA.

I'm also not in favor of going whole-hog with this proposed experiment. I recognize that a lot of other drugs, like cocaine and heroin, are dangerous, while marijuana is not. So, let's try this experiment for a couple of decades with the least dangerous drug and see what happens. If it's a disaster, at least legal marijuana would do less damage than legal cocaine.

116 posted on 07/23/2004 11:30:11 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: A CA Guy; All
This lust for drugs IMO is a big liberal issue. I don't know how it gets posted at FR at all

More great logic. Pick and choose at what shall be free and what shall not be...just like the liberals. And then go on to say that FR is not worthy this issue. Censorship is favored then eh? Who are YOU to say what is discussed on FR and what is not?

Calling the WOD only a liberal issue is ignorant, and intended only to vilify it by name-calling. It's all you socialists can do when you have no logical argument.

117 posted on 07/23/2004 11:30:45 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Indie
I oppose the WOD. I always have.

I also oppose hypocrisy on the issue.

118 posted on 07/23/2004 11:31:00 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: ActionNewsBill

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If that is the case, then the best response would be to legalize and regulate it so it won't get into the hands of children.
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This is too funny. So, all your arguments about how drug-related crime would go away if drugs were legalized is just so much hooey because keeping drugs illegal for the largest group of users (minors) would fix all the problems of drug-related crime.

I just have to laugh at the mental abilities of the proponents of legalizing drugs. Of course, I shouldn't be surprised. They're called pot-heads for a reason.


119 posted on 07/23/2004 11:31:43 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: Protagoras
I propose you go to prison for your crimes, just like you advocate for others who have committed the same crimes as you.

Once again you make up things. But, I guess, truth is not really that important to you, demonization is your game.

120 posted on 07/23/2004 11:31:47 AM PDT by cinFLA
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