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To: frnk
Vat. II is no more to blame for the immorality of Catholics than the Council of Carthage.

And if you believe that one: the October Revolution had nothing to do with the Communists taking over Russia, the Reign of Terror had no connection with the French Revolution, and WWI had no connection to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.

Before you embarrass yourself with any more silly statements of this sort, why don't you do some reading, for example, this article where a mathematician examines the numbers since Vatican II, and concludes:

"- That the decline in priestly vocations did, in fact, begin with Vatican II and the introduction of the Novus Ordo.

- That the loss is beyond our human ability to comprehend, since it involves souls, but that we should at least be honest about the situation and attempt to comprehend it. We should quit denying that there is a crisis in the Church, and we should quit denying that it is related to the Second Vatican Council.

- That the decline is not showing any signs of reversal, despite the assertions of many bishops and priests to the contrary.

- God has left his Holy fingerprint on the decline by relating the decline to the natural number, e. Whenever we find an exponential decay function Ce-xt in nature, where C and x are constants, and t is time, it is in conjunction with the death or decay of some entity within His creation. Now we find an exponential decay function describing the number of seminarians from the Novus Ordo wing of the Church in the United States. We should reflect on whether He is trying to tell us something."

Seattle Catholic: Springtime Decay
51 posted on 07/12/2004 5:32:45 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian

"Before you embarrass yourself with any more silly statements"
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Am I embarrassing myself???

Please, look up the link in my post to the John Jay Report.

All statistics show that the sexual abuses of minors began to drop with the commencement of John Paul II's papacy. They are almost non-existent now.

No other Pope in the history made as many apostolic visits to different God-forsaken lands as JP2, no other Pope brought down the worldwide grip of godless communism. John Paul authored fourteen profound encyclical letters, promulgated new Code of Canon Law and a new Catechism. There are many good things happening in the Catholic Church because of the leadership of John Paul II.

Better look up the facts before you embarrass yourself completely.


53 posted on 07/12/2004 5:48:02 PM PDT by frnk
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To: Maximilian; frnk

Maxie, you're into post-hoc/propter-hoc again. Shows poor mental discipline.

But aren't you SSPX?


67 posted on 07/12/2004 6:17:08 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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