"I too am concerned with the drastic downward spiral that can clearly be traced back to Vat II."
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The scandals began in the 1950's if you look up the John Jay Report. Blame the rightists or the leftists, blame celibacy or the poetry of Pope John Paul II, or the Latin Mass or English Mass or whatever you like, but Vat. II is no more to blame for the immorality of Catholics than the Council of Carthage.
http://www.usccb.org/nrb/johnjaystudy/index.htm
And if you believe that one: the October Revolution had nothing to do with the Communists taking over Russia, the Reign of Terror had no connection with the French Revolution, and WWI had no connection to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
Before you embarrass yourself with any more silly statements of this sort, why don't you do some reading, for example, this article where a mathematician examines the numbers since Vatican II, and concludes:
"- That the decline in priestly vocations did, in fact, begin with Vatican II and the introduction of the Novus Ordo.Seattle Catholic: Springtime Decay- That the loss is beyond our human ability to comprehend, since it involves souls, but that we should at least be honest about the situation and attempt to comprehend it. We should quit denying that there is a crisis in the Church, and we should quit denying that it is related to the Second Vatican Council.
- That the decline is not showing any signs of reversal, despite the assertions of many bishops and priests to the contrary.
- God has left his Holy fingerprint on the decline by relating the decline to the natural number, e. Whenever we find an exponential decay function Ce-xt in nature, where C and x are constants, and t is time, it is in conjunction with the death or decay of some entity within His creation. Now we find an exponential decay function describing the number of seminarians from the Novus Ordo wing of the Church in the United States. We should reflect on whether He is trying to tell us something."
The scandals did not begin in the fifties--the John Jay study began in the fifites, a big difference. In fact, the number of abuse cases rose abruptly in 1960 during the pontificate of John XXIII--precisely at a time when clerical discipline grew more lax. By the close of the Vatican Council and throughout the late sixties and the seventies and eighties the number of abuse cases skyrocketed astronomically.
The scandals began in the 1950's if you look up the John Jay Report. Blame the rightists or the leftists, blame celibacy or the poetry of Pope John Paul II, or the Latin Mass or English Mass or whatever you like, but Vat. II is no more to blame for the immorality of Catholics than the Council of Carthage.
http://www.usccb.org/nrb/johnjaystudy/index.htm
That's right, Vatican II has simply been used and abused by the Modernists and other heretics who have taken control of so much of the Modern Church.
"Vat. II is no more to blame for the immorality of Catholics than the Council of Carthage."
Vat II was not the first cause of the process, nor was it the last. It was, however, a major event and milestone in the process. It was the signal that the modernists were now in the driver's seat rather than operating as the disloyal opposition. It facilitated and provided excuses and cover for many abuses, and simply allowed the legitimization of other abuses.
Was it the only cause? No.
Was it the first cause? No.
Was it the culminating battle? No.
Was it a major victory for Satan and the Modernist Heresy? Most definitely.