[Houmatt]

Point one: What I was trying to show is how suicide affects those left behind to pick up the pieces and try to figure out why. Both myself and my brother had roommates who committed suicide. So as far as being insensitive, the answer is no. I still believe suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness, and will continue to believe so. There is nothing brave, heroic, or gallant about it, which is what someone else seemed to be implying. But you do not have to agree with me.

Point two: Kurt Cobain died from his own hand. Period. That's what the M.E. said, that's what his note said. I do not waste my time reading trash that the Enquirer wouldn't touch, written by people who believe wishing and thinking and hoping and praying will make it so. I have a tendency to read and believe what a reputable news source reveals, not some kook in a tin-foil hat with Nirvana posters spread out all over the walls of his attic bedroom. I hear there is some guy who has been stalking Courtney Love, accusing her of killing Cobain every chance he gets. She has already obtained a restraining order against the guy, he should pray she does not follow that with a lawsuit.

[KangarooJacqui]

Point one: You pinged me to a thread to prove your own selfish argument.

I don't think it's really relevant that both you and your brother lost roomies to suicide. That kind of lame-o excuse does NOT give you the right to add to my pain just so you can win an argument with presidio9.

Free Republic might be the internet equivalent of a medium-sized city, but I don't know you and had never heard of you until today when you tried to use my family's tragedy for a pointscoring exercise. And that's strange, because there's a lot of names here I DO know. But your name doesn't ring a bell, either from my husband's obit (which you must have read carefully) or the many FReepmails I've had since then... now, this might be my memory failing me, but I doubt it. Point being, I don't know you, you don't know me. But you feel the right to take one of the most painful events of my life and remind me of it because YOU choose to have an argument over a rock star who's been dead for ten years? Disgusting.

I wouldn't wish full-blown clinical depression on anyone, but I'll go as far as saying that I wish you could experience five minutes of it - if only so you'd think next time before reopening the wounds of someone who is barely clinging to life herself.

I repeat. Do not ping me to any threads whatsoever, do not contact me in any way, and DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT using the names of TrappedInLiberalHell or Kangaroo Jacqui in ANY of your posts in future, because you knew neither of us, and you still don't.

FWIW, I don't think there's anything brave, gallant, heroic or glorious in suicide. What I object to is you using me as a dog in your fight, when you don't know me and you didn't know my husband. Don't try and place yourself in my shoes just because someone you shared a house with, killed themselves. I LOST SOMEONE I HOPED TO SHARE A LIFE WITH, and instead of the decency shown by most FReepers, who've experessed their sympathy either either publicly or privately, you have the gall to try and use me as a bitch in your dogfight without even first introducing yourself.

I checked out your profile... yup, as I coulda guessed, a New Yorker - absolutely no manners. You'll excuse me if I no longer acknowledge ANYTHING you have to say to me, privately or publicly, because the only New Yorkers I deign to speak to are the POLITE ones.

Disgustedly,
KJ