Your argument that CSA=slavery does not fit the facts. The majority of those who fought were not slave owners. Many who sided with the confederacy felt that slavery was a plague, yet tolerated it. Others still wanted to end slavery prior to even secession, so that the goal of the war would be clear.
Many have said that blacks were better off as slaves. They're delusional.
Sure they weren't just quoting Lincoln?
[G] I see it's a trick you like enough to do in subsequent posts, so I'll let you have it. The problem with it is the idiotic absolutism by Unionists. Perhaps it's bred into their ideology: As the Union must be absolute, so must all facts pertaining to the aggressive war for it's maintenance. So be it, but I would be surprised if you found that black hatred of slavery was universal (especially amongst free black slaveowners), let alone hatred of the CSA.
[#3] See, there you go. You're promoting that blacks didn't mind slavery. You're delusional.
That's not what it says.
I reject your implications that blacks didn't mind being slaves
Out of left field there. Please cite the relevent portion of my post where I said that "blacks didn't mind being slaves."
They say that granting the slaves their freedom was a bad thing to do since they weren't used to it
Once again, sure they weren't just quoting AL?
[G] Usually it seems most of the moaning comes from explaining our system of government to the Hamiltonian bloggers, who's desires for the US were shot to hell, shredded, and turned away. Maybe I'm only hearing the moans from my side of the fence. It's very possible that their moaning is equal.
[#3]If America is so terrible, move.
This is out of the parking lot beyond left field. America is not terrible due mostly to retention of some elements of federal government.
Just like when 4CJ said thaty Lincoln's only ambition was for money. Delusional.
Delusional? I would't go that far. Incomplete, for sure: money and power, but most people these days equate the two so his leaving it off is understandable.
Be careful what you believe though. It's always best to read the words of the people involved, not what someone who lives in the past who has an agenda has to say about it.
Obvious, from the way you re-post my exact words, then arrive at conclusions no sane person could draw:
[G] I would be surprised if you found that black hatred of slavery was universal (especially amongst free black slaveowners),
[#3] You're promoting that blacks didn't mind slavery
[G] Hamiltonian bloggers, who's desires for the US were shot to hell, shredded, and turned away.
[#3] If America is so terrible, move
The Declarations made clear that their cause was thoroughly identified with slavery.
The majority of those who fought were not slave owners. Many who sided with the confederacy felt that slavery was a plague, yet tolerated it. Others still wanted to end slavery prior to even secession, so that the goal of the war would be clear.
That doesn't stand up to what is said in the Declarations. The Declarations state that secession was for slavery.
Sure they weren't just quoting Lincoln?
I'm saying that there are posters here that have said blacks were better off as slaves. Even you hinted toward it.
Out of left field there. Please cite the relevent portion of my post where I said that "blacks didn't mind being slaves."
You said black hatred of slavery wasn't universal. That makes slavery OK?
Once again, sure they weren't just quoting AL?
I'm relaying what some here have said in the past.
This is out of the parking lot beyond left field. America is not terrible due mostly to retention of some elements of federal government.
Glad to see you admit you were out of line in your America-bashing.
Delusional? I would't go that far. Incomplete, for sure: money and power, but most people these days equate the two so his leaving it off is understandable.
See, you're delusional. You're saying that Lincoln only cared about money. You guys have lost touch with reality.
Obvious, from the way you re-post my exact words, then arrive at conclusions no sane person could draw:
You've said what you said. You say that Lincoln's only motivation was money and you imply that blacks weren't against slavery.