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To: Gianni
Your argument that CSA=slavery does not fit the facts.

The Declarations made clear that their cause was thoroughly identified with slavery.

The majority of those who fought were not slave owners. Many who sided with the confederacy felt that slavery was a plague, yet tolerated it. Others still wanted to end slavery prior to even secession, so that the goal of the war would be clear.

That doesn't stand up to what is said in the Declarations. The Declarations state that secession was for slavery.

Sure they weren't just quoting Lincoln?

I'm saying that there are posters here that have said blacks were better off as slaves. Even you hinted toward it.

Out of left field there. Please cite the relevent portion of my post where I said that "blacks didn't mind being slaves."

You said black hatred of slavery wasn't universal. That makes slavery OK?

Once again, sure they weren't just quoting AL?

I'm relaying what some here have said in the past.

This is out of the parking lot beyond left field. America is not terrible due mostly to retention of some elements of federal government.

Glad to see you admit you were out of line in your America-bashing.

Delusional? I would't go that far. Incomplete, for sure: money and power, but most people these days equate the two so his leaving it off is understandable.

See, you're delusional. You're saying that Lincoln only cared about money. You guys have lost touch with reality.

Obvious, from the way you re-post my exact words, then arrive at conclusions no sane person could draw:

You've said what you said. You say that Lincoln's only motivation was money and you imply that blacks weren't against slavery.

112 posted on 02/27/2004 5:19:41 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
That doesn't stand up to what is said in the Declarations. The Declarations state that secession was for slavery

Maybe we can get GOPcapitalist to post his matrix of secession documents and their reliance on slavery. Because you chose to only read the ones posted here by certain types who omit inconvenient facts does not mean that you cannot be educated.

I'm saying that there are posters here that have said blacks were better off as slaves. Even you hinted toward it.

No, I didn't. When you claimed that I did, I asked you to cite where. You have not. Now you once again indicate that I did.

You said black hatred of slavery wasn't universal. **==** That makes slavery OK?

**==** <- total leap by you, stop putting words in my mouth.

Glad to see you admit you were out of line in your America-bashing.

Nowhere did I bash America. Once again, when you previously claimed that I did, I asked you to show where. Now you once again have stated something as fact that is not true.

See, you're delusional. You're saying that Lincoln only cared about money. You guys have lost touch with reality.

Good Gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My exact words: money and power, which you cite, then say I only talk about money??

You've said what you said.

While this is the only truthful part of your post, I don't think that it contributes anything or was ever in doubt.

You say that Lincoln's only motivation was money

No, I didn't. In fact, I specifically said that 4CJ was mistaken in thinking that Lincoln's only motivation was money, which you cited and then proceeded to lie about.

you imply that blacks weren't against slavery.

No, I didn't. As a point of fact, your willingness to speak on the part of CSA blacks as though they were an aggregate people with totally coherent beliefs is probably one of the greatest insults that I can imagine.

115 posted on 02/27/2004 6:25:01 AM PST by Gianni (Everyone's a closet economist.)
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