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1 posted on 02/10/2004 10:46:06 AM PST by ksen
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2 posted on 02/10/2004 10:48:34 AM PST by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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I honestly don't think Edwards knows what he is talking about. I know I have no idea what he is talking about. You posted it. It must have meant something to you. Perhaps you can explain what he is saying and why you felt the irresistible urge to post it.

Thanks

Marlowe
4 posted on 02/10/2004 11:27:06 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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My H.S. English teacher would rip this guy a new one with all the indefinite references.
22 posted on 02/10/2004 12:40:31 PM PST by connectthedots (Recognize that not all Calvinists will be Christians in glory.)
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To: ksen
The fatal flaw in this is the fact that every thing has a begining, including free will. The only exception is God himself who has no begining or end. Satan exercise it(free will) when he fell out along with a third of the angel. Man exercise free will when he ate of the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And every one exercise free will to choose or not to choose Jesus Christ as Savior. God has given us free will even if the theologian don't like it. Every thing created has a begining, including free will. The Arminian are simple wrong on free will and have no proof in this life to show it. There bases on free will is asumption only and no proof.
29 posted on 02/10/2004 3:27:05 PM PST by Warlord David
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To: ksen
I find it fascinating how all the Arminians whine and complain about how hard it is to read, and accuse him, Edwards, of lacking clarity of thought (when they haven't taken the trouble to learn what that thought is in the first place) except for sermons which they think sound Arminian. All it takes is a little discipline to apply yourself to the text, and they'd see that Edwards eviscerates libertarian free will.
42 posted on 02/10/2004 6:01:42 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: ksen
My God is so big that He can work all things together for the good of those that love Him and also have the power to give human beings free-will.

Calvinism limits God to his sovereignty, while deleting any accountability of His creatures. That kind of sovereignty implies God created evil. Not.

A balance between Arminianism and Calvinism is taught in scripture. Always remember there are two perspectives in reality. Our perspective locked into our time domain and God's perspective outside of that time domain in eternity.

From God's perspective Christians are sinless because of the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, however the Christians I know (including myself) commit sins daily. Two perspectives! 2 cents.

858 posted on 02/16/2004 8:13:07 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical!)
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