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To: ksen
I find it fascinating how all the Arminians whine and complain about how hard it is to read, and accuse him, Edwards, of lacking clarity of thought (when they haven't taken the trouble to learn what that thought is in the first place) except for sermons which they think sound Arminian. All it takes is a little discipline to apply yourself to the text, and they'd see that Edwards eviscerates libertarian free will.
42 posted on 02/10/2004 6:01:42 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: A.J.Armitage
Sorry A.J. we have been reading it. I'm sure it says what you want it to say.
44 posted on 02/10/2004 6:16:41 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (www.wardsmythe.com)
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To: A.J.Armitage; xzins; ksen; HarleyD; Vernon; Corin Stormhands; Revelation 911; The Grammarian
All it takes is a little discipline to apply yourself to the text, and they'd see that Edwards eviscerates libertarian free will.

OK Einstein. Why don't you explain, or translate, or paraphrase, or whatever, the first sentence of Mr. Edward's rant so that us stupid people can understand it.

Having taken notice of those things which may be necessary to be observed, concerning the meaning of the principal terms and phrases made use of in controversies concerning human liberty, and particularly observed what Liberty is according to the common language and general apprehension of mankind, and what it is as understood and maintained by Arminians; I proceed to consider the Arminian notion of the Freedom of the Will, and the supposed necessity of it in order to moral agency, or in order to any one's being capable of virtue or vice, and properly the subject of command or counsel, praise or blame, promises or threatenings, rewards or punishments; or whether that which has been described, as the thing meant by Liberty in common speech, be not sufficient, and the only Liberty, which make, or can make any one a moral agent, and so properly the subject of these things.

50 posted on 02/10/2004 6:28:02 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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