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To: P-Marlowe
Does that include John the Baptist. I have been told by many GRPL's that John the Baptist was actually born... born again.

If John the Baptist were born again then he would have had to, by definition, have been on his way to Hell.

81 posted on 02/08/2004 10:18:23 PM PST by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: ksen; xJones
If John the Baptist were born again then he would have had to, by definition, have been on his way to Hell.

But you said we were ALL BORN to fry in hell. But John the Baptist was supposedly BORN... Born again. Which would mean that he was born to be saved and hell was NEVER a possibility for him.

Indeed, if we accept election as the Calvinist defines it, ALL the elect are literally born to be saved and they are born literally destined to heaven and only the reprobates are born to be fried in hell.

So you are misleading xJones by saying that we are ALL born to fry in hell. You weren't born to be fried in hell, were you? In your doctrine nothing you have done, or could have done or could not have done would have changed that fact. Your destiny was sealed before the foundation of the earth. Your destiny of heaven was sealed before you were even conceived. So you were NOT born to fry in Hell, you were born to be forever with Christ in Heaven. It was your eternal destiny even before the foundation of the earth. Am I correct?

In your doctrine every elect was chosen and elected before they were born, so the elect have no possible destination other than heaven and everyone else has no possible destination other then hell.

So how can you say that we are ALL born to fry in hell?

82 posted on 02/08/2004 10:33:48 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG & Former member of PWAODSDNPOPTML)
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