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To: Gamecock
I have no idea. Are you suggesting that the billions of Chinese who never heard the Gospel are saved anyway?

That's like asking, "Is a infant who died of a miscarrage saved?"

Just out of curiosity, are you arguing from an Atheist or Universal Salvation perspective? Seems like a fair question since you know where I am coming from.....

Good heavens, no. I accept the Niceane Creed, and am baptised.

43 posted on 02/07/2004 8:36:08 PM PST by xJones
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To: xJones
OK, thanks. I just needed to know what perspective you are coming from.

Now, what happens to the Chinese who have never heard of the redemption that comes from Christ?
44 posted on 02/07/2004 9:37:49 PM PST by Gamecock (David was a Calvinist)
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To: xJones
They do this at least once a week. I find it rather entertaining. It beats Saturday Night Live.

They don't have be virtuous -- once you are chosen you can do whatever you want, as the famous saying says Pecca fortiter sed crede fortius -- "Sin as you like provided you believe." Oh, they will tell you that there is sanctification -- which is just a veiled way of saying you have to do good things, but they won't call it works, because St Paul, whom they believe was a "Calvinist," said God will give each what he has "done." They reject St. James of course, and they love St. Augustine who is also known for having caused some uproar with his less than perfect trnalsations from Greek (the famous one "He Who is eternal created everyting at once while the koine Greek original says in common ); St Augustine could not answer why God permits evil (I would say there is a tinge of at least some semi-Pelagianism in it), but the Calvinsits will tell you -- God does both, and guess who is the tool? Why, you are! You are God's tool in His workshop, to be used for good or evil deeds, as He pleases. Machines, xJones, welcome to the world of "the Machines." The few, the chosen. The rest fry. God loves only some of His children, don't you know that?

But I still find it entertaining.

46 posted on 02/08/2004 3:59:09 AM PST by kosta50 (practice what you preach)
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