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You're question was derivative from Woody's question. So when Woody answers my original question, I'll tackle yours. So convince woody to answer my question and I'll answer yours. :-)

No dice.

Re-read the thread. My question was derivative from your discussion with Xzins in #189, not your discussion with Woody. So you've got no excuse for your non-responsiveness, Counselor.

Furthermore, if your complaint is that Woody has not answered your question, I'll answer it:

God "approved" Hitler's actions in exactly the same manner as the Rich Father in Luke 15:12 "approved" the transfer of the Prodigal Son's inheritance to that son -- that is, he granted his permission (if the Rich Father had not approved the transfer, no funds would be disbursed). Not that the Rich Father considered the Prodigal Son's actions to be "good", but that the Rich Father did grant his Permission and approve the disbursement.

Your question thusly answered, you are thus doubly without excuse for your non-responsiveness.

AND THUS:

So, when God permits Murder, is His Will to grant such Permission -- Imperfect?

Ahem....

***Furthermore, if your complaint is that Woody has not answered your question...***

Sometimes it is more fun to watch them hang themselves with their own tongue. Poor Marlowe probably still hasn't figured out how he actually accused his own faith.

Time to head for Texas' best award winning Llano Port and see just how many more ways he can hang himself....

Woody.

So, when God permits Murder, is His Will to grant such Permission -- Imperfect?

No because it is in line with his ultimate will. That all things work together for good.

Luk 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings,

Perfect will

and ye would not!

Permissive Will.

Luk 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate:

Consequence of failure to yield to God's perfect will

and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Accomplishment of His Ultimate Will.

God "approved" Hitler's actions in exactly the same manner as the Rich Father in Luke 15:12 "approved" the transfer of the Prodigal Son's inheritance to that son -- that is, he granted his permission (if the Rich Father had not approved the transfer, no funds would be disbursed). Not that the Rich Father considered the Prodigal Son's actions to be "good", but that the Rich Father did grant his Permission and approve the disbursement.

Let's parse this, then, and make a rule out of it.

He granted his permission for the prodigal son to make his own choices.

hmmmmmmmmm........sounds suspiciously like FREE WILL.