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To: P-Marlowe; ksen; George W. Bush; drstevej; CCWoody; RnMomof7; Jerry_M; the_doc
What part of "from the foundation of the world" don't you get?

Consider the child who will be born tomorrow.

Does God know that child's parents and place of birth? Does God know that child's hair color; eye color; height; weight? Does God know the day that child's first tooth will fall out? Does God know the grades in school that child will receive?

Does God know the name of that child's future spouse? Does God know how many children that child will one day have? Does God know the names of those children? Does God know what jobs that child will hold? Does God know the illnesses that child will suffer?

Does God know the faith of that child? Does God know every prayer ever uttered by that child for his entire life? Does God know the burdens and sorrows of that child's life? Does God know the joys and triumphs of that child's life? Does God know the minute of the hour of the day of the year of the death of that child?

Does God know whether or not that child's name has been written in the Book of Life from before the foundation of the world?

The answer to all these questions is "Yes, thank you, God."

If it is known to God, it is God's will. Otherwise, it wouldn't be.

And ALL is known to God.

125 posted on 02/09/2004 9:28:47 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Vernon; ksen; Corin Stormhands; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; ...
Does God know whether or not that child's name has been written in the Book of Life from before the foundation of the world?

Yes he does. He knows whether or not that Child will respond to his call of grace or reject it. He knows. That it the key, Doc. He knows. He does not make that person sin against him. Neither does he make that person fall down and worship him. But he knows. That is the key. He knows. And he has known from the foundation of the earth.

Your Calvinism makes Jeffery Dahmer and Adolph Hitler true servants of the most high. They only did what God caused them to do. God does not cause men to sin against him. God does not force people to fall down and worship him. Not now anyways.

Let me ask you something Doc. You claim that God loved Jacob and hated Esau. Did he Hate Esau when Esau was a little child? And that Child that is born tomorrow. If he is not elect. If he eventually will reject the Gospel, but right now is sucking his thumb and minding his own business, does God hate him now?

BTW is it false doctrine to have children sing the song: Jesus loves the little Children? Is that a false message? Does Jesus really love the little children, all the children of the world? Or does he hate some, or even most?

131 posted on 02/09/2004 10:38:33 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG & Former member of PWAODSDNPOPTML)
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