I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)

Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

[OWK]

C'mon man...

Don't you know that the Constitution is just a dusty old scrap of paper that keeps the republicans and democrats from distributing government goodness to everyone?

Get with the times man.

[jeremiah]

Bush wouldn't sign Kyoto, because it hurts American big business...........IOW hurts a key constituency

Bush can't support the "Rights of the Child treaty" it would have to be ratified, that will have to wait until their is more support in the houses of Congress anyway.

On the "Womens rights Treaties", what would be the point pro and con? Are we not the leader in the field of equal opportunity already? It is other countries that need to come up to our standards.

Bush kept us out of the world court, that is because that would be the last thing ANY President would do. I mean that literally. That one must wait until the politicians are convinced it would fly among American Citizens. That one may just be the straw that loads the Camels AR-15. I cannot see a Democrat being able to do that within the next 10 years anyway.

All in all, he has done nothing that would not be expected to be done. Like your(or my)children, making their bed, or going to school. Just the bare minimum. Now of course we were used to Clinton soiling the sheets, and skippin' school, but he was an anomaly. I don't reward my kids for doing the bare minimum, it is expected, and not something to be rewarded for.

[jeremiah]

The culture of the South is under attack, a lot of articles and links to the Southerners interest is not akin to KKK. You show a cultural bias against the Southern interests.

[jeremiah]

I received a reply to my position that by expressing a desire to walk away, those that are dissatisified, were helping the Republicans to turn it around...which is possible. The reply said "I keep my disagreements in private, but on this forum I fully support the President". That was paraphrased, but really close. If that policy were the one of a sports team owner, he would gripe to his wife, but tell the coach he was doing great. Isn't that lying? Hypocritical? But it is the position of many on this forum. I hope the conservatives reassert themselves, and control the President, if they don't though, they don't deserve my vote. It is as simple as that.

[jeremiah]

Did you know why it is assumed the center decides elections? It is because the R's assume their base will vote for them and the D's assume the same. So they foolishly chase after the same 20% or whatever the center constitutes. Now ignoring 40%, to chase 51% of 20% is what happens every election, but is not applicable in this case. The strategy applies to election year politics, but GW has been pandering to the center, and the center doesn't even pay attention to politics until after school starts in the fall. This is not a strategy to woo voters, it is in HIS HEART. Bush IS a big govt liberal. He is NOT wooing voters, he is trying to pass an agenda, make a name for himself in the way he is showing.

[jeremiah]

What is maddening, is the Democrats are moving so far left, that if the Republicans just hold their base, they will win the election. But they move leftward too. I ask why that is, and I come to the conclusion that they are more comfortable there, and are either politically inept, or are trying to rid themselves permanently, of the conservatives, as the old base moves away from the party, to the undecided column. IOW the head of the Republican Party (GW Bush), is trying to shake loose from the restrictions of being tied to principles of the past, to form this Compassionate Conservatism party, which is just situated in the position the Democrats abandoned when they chased McCarthy in '68.

[Ches]

As the left moves out from under the center, the center finds they identify more with the GOP and consequently the GOP fills the void, netting a move to the left. ...to restate the obvious.

[Abe Froman]

No doubt......how could I have been so naive???? What a maroon I've been. Allow me to take this opportunity to thank the moderate Republican devotees on this thread for helping me to see the light. Even if the Constitution is violated or ignored, I know now that I should be fine with it because it's a Republican that's doing it for my own good, and I should continue to vote for him because he's a good man and a Republican.

[OWK]

I know now that I should be fine with it because it's a Republican that's doing it for my own good, and I should continue to vote for him because he's a good man and a Republican

And also because he's dreamy.. and he looks very romantic with his wife and stuff.

[Ches]

You guys in the squishy middle really annoy me! LOL

[Ches]

"And also because he's dreamy.."

I like the pic of him in the pick-up truck with the cowboy hat ala Reagan.

[arasina]

The campaigns leading up to Election 2000 showed the country to be deeply divided, but it was not really a pure 50-50 percentage allotment.

If people who want a limited government had made up a bigger portion of voters in that election, someone other than George W. Bush would have won the GOP Primary Election. We, The (Republican) People had our choice of Gary Bauer, Steve Forbes, Alan Keyes, Orrin Hatch, John McCain and George W. Bush. There weren't enough people to vote for, say, Alan Keyes, even though it was a sort of do-or-die election in the sense that to allow Gore to be elected would essentially be a continuation of the Clinton presidency.

If "principled" voters are so numerous, why didn't Alan Keyes win the primary and subsequently the presidency? The answer is in President Bush's own words, "I was not elected to serve one party, but to serve one nation."

If you are maddened by the Democrats moving so far to the left, you will likely go totally insane when your "principled" vote contributes to the defeat of Dubya, especially since the makeup of the Judicial branch of government depends upon its outcome.

President Kerry, the liberals he appoints to his cabinet, the leftist politically correct person who serves as his Vice President, the Democrat Senators and Congresspersons who will ride his coattails in the election, the World Court and United Nations under whom he will receive "permission," and of course the Clintons, are grateful to you and yours for helping to save their Party and take back "their" country.

(By the way, if you didn't click the link to find out, the quote from #73 was from Jim Robinson. You may want to respond to his post at that link.)

[carton253]

You know... you need to go on TV with your amazing ability to accurately judge people! I bet you'd make big bucks.

As for the rest of your rant...

yada..yada..yada...whatever.

[OWK]

Are you suggesting that anything is OK in our nation, so long as the voters say so?

And that we are morally obligated to convince other voters not to violate our rights?

[philosofy123]

Losing millions of white colored jobs

Approving importation of IT workers to help destroy the American ITworkers

Give amnesty to illegals as if you approve 1) breaking the laws, 2)degradation of the wages of the American workers

[arasina]

Nope. I'm just saying your timing is really bad and that it certainly helps to be politically astute.

[OWK]

Your "timing and astuteness" comments are akin to the notion of putting a band-aid on a terminal cancer patient.

As you seek a minor cosmetic improvement.. the patient is dying because you ignore the disease.

[MissAmericanPie]

There are conservatives that feel it best to support the President even though they don't approve of him, and if it were not for the danger he poses in his second term, intentionally or not intentionally, regarding our sovereignty and constitutional republic, I might agree with them. Although I strongly feel it best to slap the Republican party with the threat of extinction in one devastating blow so they never present a RINO for office again.

Given the reluctance of some sincere conservatives to voice their disapproval there is no harness on his excesses. Others that are estatically for Bush are not conservatives, they are neo-cons, and we owe FR a debt of gratitude that the difference between conservative and neo-conservative has been so deeply defined.

As I posted on another thread, conservatives should hold neo-con claims to conservatism, with as much suspecion as they do liberals claims to patriotism, the facts don't back up the claims in either case.

[Mike the lurker]

"You may want to consider switching to decaf. The iidea that people are making a living off of posting to a on a Internet forum as part of a grand conspiracy is a little out there."

And you know this how?

The idea that there are paid agents of various political persuasions attempting to influence opinions on a new medium of communication such as the Internet is something that will occur to thinking adults, regardless of their caffeine intake.

The purpose of these posts is to give tools to other freepers to pursue the site owners goal of driving out the moles, & sleepers.

If you disagree with the owners decision to clear the decks please take it up with him.