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I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)
Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:32:01 AM PST by robowombat

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams


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To: My2Cents
"You seem to know your sh!t."

Well, I'm not bragging but I have stepped in my share of it.
321 posted on 02/02/2004 11:52:47 AM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: Peach
Peach, that's a keeper. Thanks for it.
322 posted on 02/02/2004 11:52:50 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: Tamsey
That's bad enough, but then they sabotage the rest of us fighting and clawing to push forward the whole platform one desperate inch at a time.

But you've been so successful and everything.. How could anyone dare object to your methods?

Heaven knows the country is far more conservative today for your efforts.

323 posted on 02/02/2004 11:53:02 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
LOL! It's not your thread...
324 posted on 02/02/2004 11:53:38 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: Tamsey; My2Cents; Cultural Jihad
Be advised...many of these "conservatives" are doing George Soros' work and collecting George Soros' shilling.
325 posted on 02/02/2004 11:53:50 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: carton253
You're welcome. I really meant to post it to a different thread which I've now lost.

Some days are just like that...
326 posted on 02/02/2004 11:54:14 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Joe & his Soviets are dead, killed off by those contradictions you, and he, sneer at..
327 posted on 02/02/2004 11:54:23 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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To: Peach
You misread my intention. There are those who claim we should elect liberals in order to force some sort of popular revolution. These are the ideologue types who I would point out have Stalinist-type ideas.
328 posted on 02/02/2004 11:54:23 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: carton253
LOL! It's not your thread...

And?

329 posted on 02/02/2004 11:54:49 AM PST by OWK
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To: xrp
I processed one, Its just you're not worth my time. You malcontents are no longer worth debating. No one will ever be conservative enough for you
330 posted on 02/02/2004 11:55:07 AM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I am SOOO glad you pointed that out.

I didn't remember you as being on the "other" side.

Kindest regards and please let me apologize for anything I may have said that was offensive, Peach
331 posted on 02/02/2004 11:55:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: OWK
Ahhhh, as I guessed.... you aren't interested in any mature political discussion at all. First of all, you pretend that the items we may disagree with are the achievements of the administration. I have a long list of those but I'm willing to bet you've seen it before and haven't bothered reading it.

Secondly, you ignored my question. Did more than half the country support spending more money on education....did more than half the country support a prescription plan... did more than half the country support Bush spending more money on the NEA to spread old-fashioned American art and ballet....

You keep ignoring what the American public supports and THAT again is the political stage we have to navigate.
332 posted on 02/02/2004 11:55:34 AM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Peach
It's far from off-topic anyway, Peach.
333 posted on 02/02/2004 11:56:06 AM PST by EllaMinnow (If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
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To: Poohbah
Be advised...many of these "conservatives" are doing George Soros' work and collecting George Soros' shilling.

Hey... yet another new and extremely imaginative post.

Pretend Bush is conservative, or you shill for Soros.

Brilliant.

Never heard that one before.

334 posted on 02/02/2004 11:56:42 AM PST by OWK
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To: xrp
Many of the Gen X/Gen Y I associate with are increasingly considering themselves libertarian.

I talk to quite a few who seem to lean away from both big government parties. Most of these shy away from existing labels, but they seem ready to go for something that might give them hope for the future. The Democrats failed the test in the 1990s, and the Republicans are determined to blow their chances in 2004.

Many of them are not politically active yet, but I expect them to become more so as real income decreases, and taxes and living expenses increase. The young people I run into cherish their independence, despise stupid laws, and seem willing to endure drastic changes for a chance to see something work.

After all, what have they got to lose from change? They are facing a lifetime of endless debt to support social programs for the world's worthless, programs that are designed to provide them zero benefits. Their liberties are sliced and diced with each passing day. Their standard of living started low and has stayed low, and their employment prospects for the future have been handed to their foreign enemies and to criminal invaders.

Karl Rove is either a complete idiot, or a Democrat trojan horse.

Considering that he has been involved in politics more than a few years, it just doesn't figure that it's a mental impairment.

335 posted on 02/02/2004 11:56:59 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: redlipstick; Poohbah; Dog; Howlin; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom; Common Tator; section9
Indeed, that is one thing that a lot of these stay-at-home/third-party types do not seem to understand.

Politicans are MUCH more likely to stick their neck out for their MOST loyal supporters. And if there are too many conservatives who stay home, the politicians will go with someone else.

At this point, who have Bush's MOST reliable supports been? I'd suggest it is the Big Business/Wall Street/investor class portion of the Republican coalition, with the pro-life movement a close second. And if one looks at his presidency, he has stuck his neck out the most on those two domestic issues.

And for those who are latecomers, they have to accept that their concrns won't be dealt with as seriosuly as the concerns of those who have remained loyal through everything. Once broken, trust is very hard to re-gain.
336 posted on 02/02/2004 11:57:17 AM PST by hchutch ("Always make your opponent think you know more than you really know." - Capt. John Sheridan)
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To: Protagoras
LOL, How else should I respond to some friggin moron who questions my use of the word "typo"

Get a grip bird brain

337 posted on 02/02/2004 11:57:50 AM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT)
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To: MJY1288
ah, the pot calling the kettle black, eh...typical liberal tactic
339 posted on 02/02/2004 12:01:04 PM PST by xrp
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To: OWK
I get my shillings from Anton Levay..\

He has better perks that Soros..
340 posted on 02/02/2004 12:01:05 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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