I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)

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[robowombat]

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams

[MJY1288]

LOL, you are the one that started the juvenile move by pointing out my spelling mistake that got the other malcontent to chime in.

Let me just say I'm old enough to know what you are, I have two grandsons who are more mature than you

[Cultural Jihad]

I doubt it. By the end of the fourth year, even you and your apologists will have had enough, the sane independents and Reagan Democrats will have had enough, and all will unite with the conservative idealists to once and for all rid the world of this liberal disease...

Josef Stalin had similar ideas: "Are there contradictions in the Worker's Soviets oppressing the workers? Yes, but those contradictions are good and should be heightened, for they assure that eventually the glorious dialectical materialist leap will take place to the future paradise! We oppress in order to free!"

[OWK]

Most of those I don't support.

So it's fair to say that you oppose nearly all of the significant domestic agenda "achievements" of this administration?

[Peach]

To those who would stay home as a protest vote for vote Third Party (which has no chance of winning), don't come back here and complain if we have a Democrat president.

A democrat who believes we should give immediate citizenship to illegal aliens.

A democrat who believes we should have socialized health care.

A democrat who believes the war on terror should be waged as a law enforcement matter.

A democrat who will get us back into Kyoto.

A democrat who will have our soldiers submit to the rules of the ICC.

A democrat who will not do anything on the international front UNLESS we have permission from the UN.

A democrat who will make judicial appointments that are so liberal we can expect to see more judges who support the more perverse elements of our society.

A democrat who will permit women to abort their children as the make their way down the birth canal.

Need I go on? So don't stay home. Do you duty. It's a simple duty. If our soldiers can give what they are sacrificing every minute of every day, the least you can do is hold your nose and vote for a man who isn't quite as conservative as you would like him to be.

[OWK]

LOL, you are the one that started the juvenile move by pointing out my spelling mistake that got the other malcontent to chime in.

I suppose it hadn't occurred to you that I pointed out a spelling mistake in an insulting post that you directed at me..?

Hint.. if you're going to try to flame someone.. be intelligent enough to spell the flame correctly.

Otherwise you look like a dullard.

[Peach]

Comparison of Bush Budget (FY’04) with Past Budget Averages

	FY’04 Proposal	Post-WWII Average (FY’46 - FY’02)	Clinton Budgets (FY’94 – FY’01)	G.H.W. Bush Budgets (FY’90 - FY’93)	Reagan Budgets (FY’82 - FY’89)
Total Receipts as percent of GDP	17.0%	17.9%	19.4%	17.7%	18.0%
Total outlays as percent of GDP	19.7%	19.5%	19.6%	22.0%	22.3%
Deficit (-)/Surplus as percent of GDP	-2.7%	-1.6%	-0.1%	-4.3%	-4.3%
Annual growth in total receipts (average % change from previous fiscal year, FY96 $)	2.7%	2.9%	4.9%	0.5%	2.5%
Annual growth in total outlays (average % change from previous fiscal year, FY96 $)	2.2%	2.3%	1.5%	1.9%	2.7%
Defense spending as a percent of total outlays	17.5%	35.5%	17.1%	21.7%	26.7%
Non-defense discretionary spending as a percent of total outlays	19.2%	19.4%*	17.6%	16.6%	17.1%
Net interest costs as percent of total outlays	7.9%	10.5%*	13.9%	14.5%	13.2%
Other mandatory spending as a percent of total outlays	55.4%	41.6%*	51.4%	46.2%	42.9%
Debt held by public at end of fiscal year as percent of GDP	36.9%	44.0%	43.0%	46.3%	36.7%
Gross Debt at end of fiscal year as percentof GDP	64.8%	56.2%	63.4%	61.8%	45.4%
* includes only data back to 1962 since the distinction between discretionary and mandatory began only in that year.

 

 

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[OWK]

Gosh...

Pretend Bush is really swell or the democrats will win.

There's a new and refreshing argument.

[Peach]

 

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Embargo on Cuba		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Favor
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Universal Government-Supervised Health Care		Somewhat Opposes	Strongly Opposes
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Hiring Welfare Workers Tax Incentive		No Opinion	Somewhat Opposes
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[dmzTahoe]

are you comparing Stalin's cause to that of the Conservative movement?

[OWK]

Stop spamming the thread please.

[Peach]

How are my posts spamming the thread?

[xrp]

Thought so. I didn't think your brain was capable of processing a response to my post.

[Cultural Jihad]

Political pundits have a term for the self-centered, self-gratifying, and unproductive vote which is cast in order to make the voter feeeel gooood about himself.

[OWK]

Large graphic posts of off-topic material tend to distract discussion.

[Cultural Jihad]

are you comparing Stalin's cause to that of the Conservative movement?

No, because the Conservative movement doesn't advocate electing Democrats as some here have.

[Tamzee]

I'm tired of people who have narrowed the "conservative" position down to one or two pet issues and positions

That's bad enough, but then they sabotage the rest of us fighting and clawing to push forward the whole platform one desperate inch at a time.

[MJY1288]

Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to use the spell checker next time :-)

[Protagoras]

I'm sure you saw your brains when you used your mirror in that fashion.

The rest of your posts gave ample indication of that.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. Sorry - thought I was on another thread:-)