[Modernman]

You see an elected official violating his oath of office so you decide not to vote for him. That is being a person of principle

I guess that's where we differ. Principles are not something I care about or expect from a politician. I expect them to represent my interests.

[exmarine]

I guess that's where we differ. Principles are not something I care about or expect from a politician. I expect them to represent my interests.

This is quite a revealing statement. You don't care about right or wrong, just want to make sure that politicians help your cause. This mindset is what got Clinton elected twice. It's moral relativism, pure and simple.

The problem is that this republic was founded on the prerepquisite that our leaders be moral. As John Adams said, the Constitution was "written for a moral and religious people and is inadequate for the government of any other." In a nutshell, without morality, you end up with tyranny, corruption and no freedom. So, all we need is about 10 million more who think like you and we can kiss the Constitution as our founders knew it good-bye for good. And that is where we are headed at light speed.

[hedgetrimmer]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
--John Adams

" Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters."
--Edmund Burke