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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: Texasforever
Does your mommy know you're using the computer?
1,021 posted on 01/14/2004 12:02:29 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: jaugust
Boy he dropped that one like a red hot poker didn't he. Well he has brought his foot up to his glottis so far. Maybe he will extract it completly with his next back pedal. What a wuss.
1,022 posted on 01/14/2004 12:03:13 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: sfRummygirl
From the beginning with a three hour nap in the middle. Now I need another one. See you tomorrow.
1,023 posted on 01/14/2004 12:04:03 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Does your mommy know you're using the computer?

Naw she is passed out on the couch. Thanks for asking.

1,024 posted on 01/14/2004 12:04:21 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Map Kernow
Well, I would have settled for the racist comment being left as evidence as the crap it is, but know I am starting to wonder why this site is here at all if it's not obvious that this person is a fake.
I haven't reported it as an abuse, because I want to keep it for people to read. It speaks for itself.
1,025 posted on 01/14/2004 12:05:14 AM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Man, what a hornet's nest this thread has become. Over a thousand posts, charges and counter-charges flying, venom spewing ... reminds me of the last time my in-laws visited.
1,026 posted on 01/14/2004 12:06:46 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... now lessee, $60,000 divided one point three million ways equals ...")
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To: garandgal
The owners of businesses didn't used to think that way

Bull squat, ask the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Vanderbilt the Fords and on and on and on, they weren't called "robber barons” for nothing. Geeze read history instead of making it up on the fly.

1,027 posted on 01/14/2004 12:06:46 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Do not mistake me for one of those wuss Texans.>>>>>

Now, now, don't 'lumpuss' all together. I'm a transplant anyway.
1,028 posted on 01/14/2004 12:07:41 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Johnny_Cipher
it's funny, all becasue I asked someone to prove a racist comment. Which he never did.
1,029 posted on 01/14/2004 12:07:48 AM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
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To: CWOJackson
Then I realized it's just one of the unofficial ones.

Naw just Peewee Herman's playhouse.

1,030 posted on 01/14/2004 12:08:11 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: sfRummygirl
He didn't lay a glove on me I tells ya. LOL
1,031 posted on 01/14/2004 12:09:05 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: sfRummygirl
Ouch. Too often, people throw the "R" bomb out there instead of posting material backed up by the facts.
1,032 posted on 01/14/2004 12:09:26 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... now lessee, $60,000 divided one point three million ways equals ...")
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To: Johnny_Cipher
Hey I am sitting right here. Geeze.
1,033 posted on 01/14/2004 12:10:28 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I haven't seen this much scorched earth politics and Bush hatred since the patsies were pushing buchanan.
1,034 posted on 01/14/2004 12:11:04 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Texasforever
I hope you're a heck of a lot more comfortable than I am where you're sitting. I had a boil the size of greater Chicago removed today. In the worst place too.
1,035 posted on 01/14/2004 12:11:26 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... now lessee, $60,000 divided one point three million ways equals ...")
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To: Johnny_Cipher
Yeah, that's my point. I don't care if you listen or not to Savage. But when someone calls him a racist, and says it as fact, that sounds like a liberal tool to me. So I called him on it. To give me proof. All I got was Ralph Nader's platform. And I don't mean the shoes he was against, either.
1,036 posted on 01/14/2004 12:11:48 AM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
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To: Texasforever
General Wesley Clark unleashed his most blistering attack yet on the Bush administration in the president's home state Monday, vowing to win Texas in November if he is the Democratic nominee.

"I think we're at risk with our democracy," Clark told an audience of about 500 people at a fund-raiser at the Westin Galleria hotel. "I think we're dealing with the most closed, imperialistic, nastiest administration in living memory. They even put Richard Nixon to shame. They are a threat to what this nation stands for, and we need to get him out of the White House. And we're going to do it."

1,037 posted on 01/14/2004 12:13:32 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Johnny_Cipher

"Fwiw, Michael Savage is a terrible voice for conservatism. One could very easily make a case that he is a racist."

post 108.
This is what I was responding to.
1,038 posted on 01/14/2004 12:14:29 AM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
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To: Texasforever
That might give you an idea about the confusion between this an the "official" Clark for President site.
1,039 posted on 01/14/2004 12:14:40 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: sfRummygirl
I thought Ralph Nader wore those stupid Earth Shoe thingies. Darned things gave me shin splints in the 70s.

Sorry to hear about the racism charges being thrown around though, seriously. If somebody is gonna call Savage a racist, they sure need to back it up with facts (and I'm not a particularly big fan of his either).

1,040 posted on 01/14/2004 12:15:36 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... now lessee, $60,000 divided one point three million ways equals ...")
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