To: lockeliberty; P-Marlowe
You would say: Man "lathers up" through his own personal response. I would say: God "lathers up" man so that he can respond. Does this accurately reflect our different perspectives?
No, it is not accurate.
I would exactly say the same: "God 'lathers up' man so that he can respond.
Where I perceive our difference is this:
You say: "God lathers up man and responds for the man, and it is a permanent lathering."
I say: "God 'lathers up' man so that he can respond, and then the man is able to make the choice for permanent 'lathering.'"
I'm not sure that this is what P-Marlowe would say.
30 posted on
01/07/2004 4:45:50 AM PST by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!)
To: xzins
I say: "God 'lathers up' man so that he can respond, and then the man is able to make the choice for permanent 'lathering.'"So man can resist the call of God.
31 posted on
01/07/2004 4:58:56 AM PST by
Wrigley
To: xzins; drstevej; Wrigley; Alex Murphy; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Gamecock; CCWoody; Frumanchu; ...
You say: "God lathers up man and responds for the man, and it is a permanent lathering." Maybe you want to think that's what we're saying, but no Calvinist has ever said that God responds for the man. That is a gross misrepreentation of the Calvinist position, and I think you know that it is. I expect a little more accuracy from you than that, xzins. As long as we've been discussing it, you know that is not what we say.
35 posted on
01/07/2004 5:27:08 AM PST by
nobdysfool
(All True Christians will be Calvinists in Glory)
To: xzins
You say: "God lathers up man and responds for the man, and it is a permanent lathering." Nope. I never said that. My exact words were: so that man can respond
Your perception is wrong.
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