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To: Normally a Lurker
If you ask me a question I must respond. You have called me all kinds of names, insulted me and mocked me . I am a strong enough person to handle that. I never hit the abuse button, because I am not a victim. I am an adult in a conservative forum talking about a heated issue. I do not enflame people who do not agree with me, if you want this to be my last post to you, why don't you stop making accusations where I will need to defend myself? . I don't call names and then tattle when people get upset. I came to your thread because there is a link from the Terri thread today ,and I felt I needed to comment upon your masked "apology"

You should have demanded that everyone accept your appology nicley or not post. I had a stake in this thread because you ahve called me names two days now. I called you NONE before this AM, and this was moved to chat.... I felt I could speak a bit more freely today. I guess you proven to the moderators otherwise. So be it. It is Jim Robs site.

Would you like to go back to all of the threads where you have called me names and make your apologies there or should I point them all out to Jim Rob??

You can't enrage people with names while you mock them ,and then play vicitm. For heavens sake. With every new post you are accusing me of wilder things. If you want this to end then instead of tattling and calling abuse, why don't you just stop accusing me of things, asking me questions and making statements about me.

BTW, I consider what you have done for days abuse, and so do many others here.. we just don't have to act like children and call for the moderator to save us from an argument like you have done. That is sad...esp. when you are the one who started it all.

52 posted on 10/29/2003 2:30:34 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Don't worry. NAL has a history of this crap, and older FR posters know about it.

Thought you might like this. More sworn testimony that posters like LEGERDOMAIN, NAL, and some others will either refuse to read or acknowledge.

They always have an excuse for why you are wrong and they are right. I never heard one of them admit they were wrong when it was shown to them.

A link to one of the Terri ThreadsHere are some outtakes that give me reason to believe Michael is what we originally believed, an attempted murderer who wants to finish the job.

Schindler lived in the same St. Petersburg apartment complex as his sister and brother-in-law in 1990. He says Michael Schiavo knew CPR but did not perform it the night Terri collapsed and was deprived of oxygen for 10 minutes. Schindler said his family and their doctors suspect Terri Schiavo was beaten and suffered brain damage.

Caplan pointed out that courts have consistently ruled in favor of Michael Schiavo even though his wife's parents and siblings have alleged he abused her.

"Look at the evidence," he said. "They keep coming back and saying, no, he's not in it for life insurance; he's not in it because he doesn't care for her.

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make this statement of my own personal knowledge.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times.

Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around.

She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper and scooted in bed on her bottom.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused -4- on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would be furious.

Michael was also adamant that the family should not be given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like, -5- "Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!" and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have -6- any way of knowing for sure.

(Why would Michael, who was having an affair and got a woman pregnant WHILE married to TERRI before her accident,and who allegedly said and did these things, which the parents back up, and so do some other witnesses, WANT TO BE A NURSE? Well, that's where you find out how to kill someone in a hospital, without getting caught or them detecting how you did it!)

53 posted on 10/29/2003 5:42:56 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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