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To: DannyTN
Unless God created our reality but not His.

Two problems with that:

1. Then who created god's reality? No one, you say, it didn't need to be created? Then consider that the universe didn't need to be created either.

You can't invoke god as a "necessary" thing to create the universe (since, the argument goes, things *can't* exist without causes), then immediately turn around and say, "but god didn't need a cause". At least not without shooting the first half of your argument in the foot in a record-breaking 3.5 seconds after making it.

2. Actually, the Invisible Pink Unicorns created god's reality. Let's see you try to prove me wrong.

395 posted on 10/28/2003 9:19:56 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
"1. Then who created god's reality? No one, you say, it didn't need to be created? Then consider that the universe didn't need to be created either. You can't invoke god as a "necessary" thing to create the universe (since, the argument goes, things *can't* exist without causes), then immediately turn around and say, "but god didn't need a cause". "

Here's the logic. I know God is. You may not, but I do. He says He's everlasting. That would imply that his reality was not created but always was. You of course ask, "How can that be". And my response is, "Heck if I know. But I think it has something to do with God may not perceive time the same way we do." We think of time as linear. God however already knows the future and he often speaks of future events in the past tense as well as past events in future tense. Thus while we look for a beginning, He simply says, "I AM".

"2. Actually, the Invisible Pink Unicorns created god's reality. Let's see you try to prove me wrong. "

I cannot prove you wrong. Since the only thing I know about creation is what God has said. However, if the Invisible Pink Unicorns start telling you to do bad things. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM!!!

413 posted on 10/29/2003 6:49:34 AM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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